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Originally Posted by jjrose
But they are man and woman. The way Gawd intended.
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Not enough rep in the world.
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Originally Posted by OhioIstheBest
Wow. What a troll thread. This is in another country. Yet, it proves Christians in the U.S. are wrong? LOLs.
And by the way. Gays are allowed to marry in the U.S. Nobody is stopping them. It's just most State governments won't recognize such marriage.
What a trol thread. LOLs.
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Since governments are the only ones capable of decreeing legal marriage, and with most states rejecting to legally grant marriage to homosexual couples, it is
not legal for gays to marry in those states.
Last time I checked, it was seven states that had legal gay marriage, and North Carolina just passed an amendment banning same-sex marriages.
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And single hetereosexuals in the U.S. are also denied the "rights" granted married people. You don't hear them whining.
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Originally Posted by OhioIstheBest
Not one state law outlaws gay marriage. Not one.
And why aren't people fighting for these rights for everyone. What if a hetereosexual couple wants to live together, own property, have kids etc....Why should the State discriminate against them?????????? Just because they make a personal decision not to marry? lols.
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Entering into the social contract of marriage bears responsibilities, benefits, and rights onto both holders. Opposite sex couples can enter into a marriage contract with their couple at any point in time. Same sex couples cannot enter into this legal contract, despite doing the same purpose.
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Why is the pro-gay marriage crowd willing to practice bigotry against single hetereosexual whilw whining about their "plight" at the same time. Hypocrits.
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Originally Posted by OhioIstheBest
And gay people can marry their partner anytime they want. No one is preventing them. Not the law. Not Christians. No one. This idea put forth by people that gay marriage is banned or illegal is a lie. A big fat lie.
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The only one who seems to be proporting the idea that gay marriage is a criminal act is
you. Not being legal, and being criminally illegal are two distinctly different concepts. A gay person
cannot marry their significant other because the state will not provide those marriage contracts to same sex couples.
You're using strawmen fallacies, Ohio, and you do so throughout the entire thread. Marriage is a social contract between two adult persons granting various protected rights and benefits. A single person cannot enter into said contract with him or her self. You're not being denied marriage rights because it's logically impossible to marry oneself.
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Originally Posted by buzzards27
Envision the "caveman" clubbing his "bribe" and dragging her away from her tribe to his tribe by her hair. RELIGIOUS AFFAIR? or tribal custom? Man invented religion long after he began coupling with his wife. The idea of stay with your mate and defending the litter long predates religion.
Government, I sense how you hate it, is an invention of man to organize his society, distribution of duties, protection of the tribe and the care and feeding of the tribe. Again government long predates religion. Self preservation natural predates "higher" thought processes.
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I wouldn't consider superstitions to be a "higher" thought process, but the organization of those superstitions into methods of social control certainly are.
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Originally Posted by Oleg Bach
Church of Satan? - wait a second- even the devil plays by God's rules...after all God created and controls good and evil- He is the all mighty....Man kind or some members of humanity have fallen lower than the devil- It's pretty pitiful when even Satan wants nothing to do with you.
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Despite it's name, the Church of Satan has nothing to do with the Christian concepts of Satan or the Devil. The Church of Satan and its principles are about self-interest--it's actually an atheistic religion, well, LaVey called it a philosophy, which is fair, because really it's just egoism. I have his bible (
The Satanic Bible) right next to my Koran and Bible. Fun things to have.
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Originally Posted by ♪♫♪♪♫♫♪♥
Good, I hope they have cannibalistic pseudo-vampire kids and live happily ever after. Unless they don't. On a side note, I'm going to marry my favorite pastrami sandwich tomorrow and I'll be damned if I let anyone stand in my way.
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Pastrami Sandwich's can't sign contracts, and that's Mayo stain doesn't count.
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Originally Posted by Sawdustmaker
Because it's just a really, really, really, ridiculous comparison. With not one iota of logic in the foundation.
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It's not a comparison. The argument that gay marriage threatens striaght marriages, or ruins the "sanctity" of marriage, is ridiculous, because here we have a man and a woman, marrying, but their status is of such ridiculous nature, it bears asking why
those two can marry, and that poses no such threat to the sanctity of marriage, yet homosexuals can't marry, despite being non-criminal tax-payers, as someone pointed out.
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There is no hypocrisy. What's going to happen? Marriage licenses are going to be annulled automatically is one of the two person on the license ends up a convicted felon of some sort?
Let me make something very clear: I'm all for gay marriage.
THIS comparison?
What's next?
People with DUI's shouldn't be allowed to marry if gay couples aren't?
People who are already divorced shouldn't be allowed to marry again if gay couples can't?
Dumb it down a little more....keep on talking smack about "these nut jobs who are LEGALLY allowed to marry"....while comparing gay marriage to the nut jobs.
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It's a valid question. How can someone defend the sanctity of marriage by stating that marriage is only between a man and a woman, while simultaneously allowing two convicted homicidal maniacs to marry. If anything, the question deliberately points out the absurdity of the "sanctity of marriage" argument used by the religious-right.