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Old 06-18-2012, 09:05 AM
 
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I like it! Heck of an idea.
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:10 AM
 
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When parents get involved in their children's education generally it is a good thing. Hope it works. For some districts who have lost accreditation off and on for decades, it would be difficult to get much worse.
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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Wanna bet that many of the worst performing schools have many parents who don't care. Always blame the teachers but never the parents or students

Firing crappy teachers and administrators is a start, but it's not enough
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:15 AM
 
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It sounds like private industry will be taking over, not the parents.
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:17 AM
 
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It sounds like private industry will be taking over, not the parents.
Awesome, tax dollars funneled to well connected companies.

God bless privatization
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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I think its a great idea for private companies to take over especially if they can hold whoever they hire to teach accountable. If they don't teach and get test scores to rise they get fired...gives them incentive to get the job done correctly.
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:29 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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All of the billions of tax dollars spent across the USA for the past two decades on high-stakes standardized testing has revealed the following incontrovertible truth:

All schools perform as well as the demographic they serve.

Which is exactly what we all knew before all that money was sent off to testing companies rather than spent on textbooks, lab supplies, repairing leaky roofs, replacing broken plumbing, etc.

My district has a few low-performing schools. And there have been massive forced turnover in the faculties of some. The results haven't improved.

Conclusion: schools in poor neighborhoods are going to be populated by the children of poorly educated, apathetic parents who in many cases don't even speak English. Schools in better neighborhoods with better educated, motivated parents will tend to outscore those poor schools.

But by all means, use this as a justification to slag on the schools and teachers. Must be their fault.
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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All of the billions of tax dollars spent across the USA for the past two decades on high-stakes standardized testing has revealed the following incontrovertible truth:

All schools perform as well as the demographic they serve.

Which is exactly what we all knew before all that money was sent off to testing companies rather than spent on textbooks, lab supplies, repairing leaky roofs, replacing broken plumbing, etc.

My district has a few low-performing schools. And there have been massive forced turnover in the faculties of some. The results haven't improved.

Conclusion: schools in poor neighborhoods are going to be populated by the children of poorly educated, apathetic parents who in many cases don't even speak English. Schools in better neighborhoods with better educated, motivated parents will tend to outscore those poor schools.

But by all means, use this as a justification to slag on the schools and teachers. Must be their fault.
That's right. But TPTB in education will NEVER admit that.
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:04 AM
 
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All of the billions of tax dollars spent across the USA for the past two decades on high-stakes standardized testing has revealed the following incontrovertible truth:

All schools perform as well as the demographic they serve.

Which is exactly what we all knew before all that money was sent off to testing companies rather than spent on textbooks, lab supplies, repairing leaky roofs, replacing broken plumbing, etc.

My district has a few low-performing schools. And there have been massive forced turnover in the faculties of some. The results haven't improved.

Conclusion: schools in poor neighborhoods are going to be populated by the children of poorly educated, apathetic parents who in many cases don't even speak English. Schools in better neighborhoods with better educated, motivated parents will tend to outscore those poor schools.

But by all means, use this as a justification to slag on the schools and teachers. Must be their fault.
Yes I know that but can't say that to the masses you get yelled down as a racist. They hate facts.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:01 AM
 
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I think its a great idea for private companies to take over especially if they can hold whoever they hire to teach accountable. If they don't teach and get test scores to rise they get fired...gives them incentive to get the job done correctly.
Teaching an entire generation how to take standardized tests doesn't make sense to me. I think instead of pushing more testing and letting private companies take over, we should empower principals to fire bad teachers regardless of how long they have been there.
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