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so what? We've shown that heterosexuals do not make good parents compared to homosexual parents, even if they are "biologically" able to create children.
The link below is one of the better studies based on research methodology. It does explain why some of the other studies may be skewed so I won't go into that but a lot of potenial flaws have to do with sample size and sample selection. The one thing just about every reliable valid study has shown is that adult ourcomes, measured on just about every indication area, are better for people raised in intact biological families than any other family grouping, this one is no different. And at times, like other studies, this one shows that it can be a significant difference.
That doesn't mean homosexuals can't and don't make good parents, it means there are more challanges for whatever reason. If you read through the data you will find that adults raised by gay male couples have fared better on average in a number of indicator areas than those raised in some biological hetrosexual non-intact family units. I'll let you draw your own conclusions based on the actual data. But to say that hetrosexual parents aren't as good of parents as homosexual ones is just not supported by valid, reliable research.
Gay parents, on average, enjoy significantly better relationships with their childrenthan do heterosexual ones, and the kids in same-sex families exhibit no differences in the domains of cognitive development, psychological adjustment, and gender identity.
5. Slang: Often Disparaging and Offensive . awkward, stupid, or bad; lame: This game is really gay.
mar·riage
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[mar-ij] Show IPA
noun 1. a. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. Antonyms: separation.
b. a similar institution involving partners of the same gender: gay marriage. Antonyms: separation.
2. the state, condition, or relationship of being married; wedlock: a happy marriage. Synonyms: matrimony. Antonyms: single life, bachelorhood, spinsterhood, singleness; separation.
3. the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of two people to live as a married couple, including the accompanying social festivities: to officiate at a marriage. Synonyms: nuptials, marriage ceremony, wedding. Antonyms: divorce, annulment.
4. a relationship in which two people have pledged themselves to each other in the manner of a husband and wife, without legal sanction: trial marriage.
5. any close or intimate association or union: the marriage of words and music in a hit song. Synonyms: blend, merger, unity, oneness; alliance, confederation. Antonyms: separation, division, disunion, schism.
So, basically, no matter how you put those two words together of for what reason, the term "gay marriage" is being used properly.
Now, the following words are hard to misuse and yet homophobes, right wing christians, and the GOP pretty much screw these words over every time they use them. I don't want to "spoil" it for you, so feel free to open when you're ready.
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e·qual
[ee-kwuhl] Show IPA adjective, noun, verb, e·qualed, e·qual·ing or ( especially British ) e·qualled, e·qual·ling.
adjective 1. as great as; the same as (often followed by to or with ): The velocity of sound is not equal to that of light.
2. like or alike in quantity, degree, value, etc.; of the same rank, ability, merit, etc.: two students of equal brilliance.
3. evenly proportioned or balanced: an equal contest.
4. uniform in operation or effect: equal laws.
5. adequate or sufficient in quantity or degree: The supply is equal to the demand.
hu·man
[hyoo-muhn or, often, yoo‐] Show IPA
adjective 1. of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or having the nature of people: human frailty.
3. of or pertaining to the social aspect of people: human affairs.
4. sympathetic; humane: a warmly human understanding.
right
[rahyt] Show IPA adjective, right·er, right·est, noun, adverb, verb
adjective 1. in accordance with what is good, proper, or just: right conduct.
2. in conformity with fact, reason, truth, or some standard or principle; correct: the right solution; the right answer.
3. correct in judgment, opinion, or action.
4. fitting or appropriate; suitable: to say the right thing at the right time.
5. most convenient, desirable, or favorable: Omaha is the right location for a meatpacking firm.
That's right, the term most misused by you and your ilk is equal human rights. You don't understand that this country was founded on such a notion.
The Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
The Constitution of the United State of America:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
The First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The Fourteenth Amendment:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The unanimous Supreme Court decision striking down anti-miscegenation laws in Loving vs. Virginia:
Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man,".... To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discrimination. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.
I'm throwing this one in for fun:
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Treaty of Tripoli
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
I don't know if the experience of Dr. Robert Oscar Lopez has been mentioned, but here's another tragic story of a child raised by homosexuals - this time a boy raised by lesbians. Read it, weep, and pray for children raised in these abusive situations.
"Especially damning is the liberal attitude that we shouldn’t be judgmental about sex. In the Bronx gay world, I cleaned out enough apartments of men who’d died of AIDS to understand that resistance to sexual temptation is central to any kind of humane society. Sex can be hurtful not only because of infectious diseases but also because it leaves us vulnerable and more likely to cling to people who don’t love us, mourn those who leave us, and not know how to escape those who need us but whom we don’t love. The left understands none of that. That’s why I am conservative."
The first problem is where your article comes from. It's a church bulletin, then you can source the story at The Witherspoon Institute which is a conservative think tank and full of bias and not based on any unbiased studies. They support only the Christian point of view and believe in globalizing their beliefs regardless of what actual studies say. They produce and back studies that don't even measure what they claims to be measuring.
The next problem with the article is that Mr. Lopez didn’t turn out the way he did because he had lesbian parents. He turned out the way he did from bad parenting. His mother and her lover didn’t seem too concerned for Robert, not because they were gay, but because he was the last child at home. It’s rare, but it does happen. Mr. Lopez puts all the blame on his mother sexuality, when it isn’t. Many things should be factored in and Mr. Lopez blatantly leaves this out. What happened to his father? What was the relationship he had with his father and mother before the father died? What was his relationship with his mother like? Where were his siblings? How is it his friends who’s parents were divorced turned out “normal” without a father and still had access to male role models and he didn’t? He also probably didn’t know it but, it is common for the youngest sibling in a family to be more feminine if male and more masculine if female.
but neither of these scenarios are that of a gay couple.
Single mom and dad is not the same.
Yet more deflection on your part - it really is tedious, so can you please stay on track.
thanks
You argue that children need the masculine male role model and the feminine female in their life, I only had the female, not the male. None of my brothers had the masculine male role model in our life. My mom didn't have time to date any men as she had four boys to raise, when the youngest of my brothers was finally out of school, she was diagnosed with breast cancer and passed away.
If a child is raised in a same-sex house it is the same as being raised in a single parents house that never dates or remarries.
so what? We've shown that heterosexuals do not make good parents compared to homosexual parents, even if they are "biologically" able to create children.
Heterosexulas make perfect parents. Our civilization survived. What gay parenting would do we don't know. We have a very small sample of kids raised in gay households by not really representative sliver of gay population.
I look at the world around and I like it, I certainly don't want to risk changing it drastically.
[snip]The unanimous Supreme Court decision striking down anti-miscegenation laws in Loving vs. Virginia:
Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man,".... To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discrimination. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State. [snip]
Your '...' replaced crucial words in the Loving case. The sentence reads --- Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival." Those words and the precedent cited in Loving attached marriage to opposite sex marriage and procreation.
Just last week a U.S. Disrict Court Upheld The Constitutionality of Hawaii's law against ssm, and said ---
“in recognizing a fundamental right to marry, the [Supreme] Court has only contemplated marriages between persons of opposite sexes - persons who had the possibility of having children with each other.”
how about those children that have latent bisexual tendencies?
Like gays and straights, they are born bisexual.
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these need to be ironed out by correct parenting,
the only difference between straights/gays and bisexuals is that a bisexual is attracted to both sexes. Noting needs to be ironed out. the only thing that matters is that the bisexual is happy with his/her choice of partner.
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and a hetero situation is needed here, to encourage the child that girl and boy is the correct way.
There is no correct way. Even nature say there is no correct way.
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Orientation choice, in cases such as these, can be rectified if caught early enough.
Sexual attraction is not a choice. So please stop repeating this lie.
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