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Old 07-13-2012, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
I asked Jaymax.
And I asked you.

 
Old 07-13-2012, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by adiosToreador View Post
And I asked you.
Because I had truth to impart - and something worthwhile to say.
 
Old 07-13-2012, 09:08 PM
 
Location: TX
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
- Very, very well written.

Listen to GNT people - he is the voice of reason.
Until he can explain away all the research that finds children who are raised by gay parents fare every bit as well as (if not better than) children who are raised by heterosexuals, no. No, he is not the voice of reason.
 
Old 07-13-2012, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Originally Posted by Vic 2.0 View Post
Until he can explain away all the research that finds children who are raised by gay parents fare every bit as well as (if not better than) children who are raised by heterosexuals,
IT'S THAT THERE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA THINGAMAJIG.

ANYTHIGN THAT DOESN'T SHOW HOMOSEXUALS IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT IS INFLUENCED BY HOMOSEXUALS THEREFORE IT MEANS NOTHING.

That's the sum of the anti-homosexual argument, pretty much.
 
Old 07-13-2012, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
I don't wear panties - thank you very much. Are you accusing me of being a crossdresser?
Nope. Did I specifically say that? Freudian slip much?

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Why should he summarize it? And why does him not doing so - just because YOU ASKED him to - mean that he has no point?
Right - I asked him to and he didn't. Thank you for pointing out the obvious, lol? He responded with a smart remark so I assumed he had no point to that wall of text he threw up earlier. No person in their right mind would sit and read all that - well I mean you and him would, so take that however you want.

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GNT made several good points in that post - I will not "summarize" them - because I would rather you read his post - because then you might learn something.
AKA You're too lazy to do so. Got it. Learn something? You mean how his views won't match up with mine? That was a given before he posted that.

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Dismissing and ignoring something because you fear that it might conflict with your current view is a recipe for intellectual stagnation - actually there is a word how you are behaving -

CLOSED MINDEDNESS.

Adj.1.closed-minded - not ready to receive to new ideas close-minded
narrow-minded, narrow - lacking tolerance or flexibility or breadth of view; "a brilliant but narrow-minded judge"; "narrow opinions"
*holds up mirror*

That last part is ironic coming from you. How many times have you've been addressed with a certain question - this one as a matter of fact:

"Gays and their desire to marry and raise children, affect me directly by:

1)
2)
3)
4)

Provide sources to back up your reasons."

And you've dodged, ducked, and utterly refuse to answer it? Not to mention you've been presented with reputable sources supporting the stances of others here yet you refuse to do the same.

We like to call that a certain something - someone made a decent point about it earlier...now what could it be? Oh! I Know!

Dismissing and ignoring something because you fear that it might conflict with your current view is a recipe for intellectual stagnation - actually there is a word how you are behaving -

CLOSED MINDEDNESS.

Adj.1.closed-minded - not ready to receive to new ideas close-minded
narrow-minded, narrow - lacking tolerance or flexibility or breadth of view; "a brilliant but narrow-minded judge"; "narrow opinions"
 
Old 07-13-2012, 09:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by VLWH
Really.....I'm sure someone can post countless stories about heterosexual couples where their children are abused physically and sexually by the parents. Does this bring us to the conclusion that being raised in a heterosexual marriage is wrong?
Yea.... This is a WEAK ATEMPT to try and attack the gay household
 
Old 07-13-2012, 09:15 PM
 
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You've said this lie twice now.

The truth is .. there are twice as many female children sexually molested to males ...2 to 1 ... not 3 out of 4.

But even using your false 3/4 ratio, we can still do the math, and it's still not going to help your case.

Given that the vast majority of child molestation is committed by men, (women do to, but it's a small percentage) let's look at the percentage of heterosexual/homosexual males in the population which is roughly 94/6 (6% homosexual). Are you familiar with 7th grade math? Are ya?

3/4 (victims) 75% female 25% male victims and 94/6 (potential perpetrators) so 94% heterosexual group commit 75% of the violations, and the other 6% homosexuals commit the other 25% of the violations (according to your false 3 of 4 ratio which in reality is 2-1 and therefore this figure should be 66.6% and 33.3% respectively)

What does that say to you mathematically? It says that (still using your false ratio) that homosexual males by mathematical averages are more than 5 times more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexual males ... and those are the hard cold mathematical facts. Using the more legitimate ratio of female/male child victims of 2/1, makes the homosexual male 7 times more likely to be pedophiles. So, 5 times or 7 times more likely .. take your pick ... it's still a DRAMATIC difference showing that a male child is at exponentially greater risk from homosexual males, to an alarming degree.

This explains why there is such insistence by the homosexual community to promote this inane and asinine idea that pedophiles don't observe a sexual orientation, or that a male adult abusing a male boy is not a homosexual act. I've even heard the claim that all pedophiles are heterosexual regardless of the gender of the child. This is what you get from the homosexual community ... lies, distortions, fabrications, inane logic, and excuses. What you won't see is honesty, because they are too damned concerned about their collective "image" as homosexuals, and obviously couldn't care less if that places children in greater jeopardy, which it most certainly does. When homosexuals convince the masses of blatant lies, such as the oft presented lie that "homosexual males pose no greater risk than heterosexuals, and therefore there is no reason to deny them the opportunity to be boy scout leaders", for example .... this most certainly does put children at much greater risk ... and for what? To protect the image and reputation of the homosexual community? Well guess what .... you want a better image? Try being HONEST for a change? Then someone might have a reason to trust you! Right know, heterosexuals have no reason to ... and that's not because of homophobia ... it's because of homo-deception!

What I see just after reviewing 6 or 7 pages of responses is one lie after another lie ... then the diversions about how heterosexual couples abuse children too ... etc .... as if that changes anything about the negative impact and consequences and upfront unhealthy nature of the homosexual lifestyle on children.

The reality is, the majority of children can be expected to reflect the general population in that most will be heterosexual. And children learn how to be adults from observing their parents behaviors, including the proper conduct between that heterosexual father and mother. How are these children to understand their heterosexual nature surrounded by parents and their parents friends that are homosexuals? It's CRAZINESS. What kind of role model can two homosexual males to be for a heterosexual male child? A terrible one, not to mention the 5 to 7 times risk of being molested by them, by the hard cold numbers.

Today, we see an epidemic of child abuse ... mental, physical and sexual. And it's a horrible situation that needs to be given much greater priority than it receives. It's a reflection of the breakdown of our society, particularly with regard to the embrace of "moral relativism" so strongly promoted by the left and the homosexual community. And that is not limited to just homosexuality (I know how the mere mention of morality conjures such a stomach churning reaction among homosexuals), but in all things that the leftists rail against ... family values ... moral standards ... right and wrong ... all of those things that the left find so repulsive and so "out dated". But it is this moral relativism that has given rise to all sorts of deviate conduct, which creates this safe zone for the darker side of human nature to roam freely, carrying that banner of "if it feels good do it". Too many make excuses, or look the other way, as we delude ourselves into the belief that morality is an outdated concept that has no place in modern society.

The facts which continue to be denied here by so many are actually well documented and come from the homosexual community themselves. The promiscuity of homosexuals, males in particular, are off the charts, with mind numbing numbers of different sexual partners, exponentially exceeding that of heterosexuals by leaps and bounds. The rates of disease is far greater, as is the rates of drug and alcohol abuse and suicide. What a gay community indeed .... so gay and care free, when constant intoxication is not enough, suicide seems a good option to many.

The narrative in the book referenced at the start seems to be an honest account from someone who lived in that situation, and it's harmful effects on her. I detected no agenda or dishonesty from her, and her accounts are consistent with many other similar narratives. The said thing is, no one knows just how many little boys suffer even greater consequences under similar conditions, with the constant flow of strangers who are potential child molesters. She defined a rather universal system operating in the homosexual community of "cruising" as a common routine her father practiced ... and this scenario is common, regardless of the denials offered by some here.

And I've been around a while on this earth, and I've had acquaintances who were gay, and I've heard the stories and seen first hand the provocative conduct myself, so there really is no point in someone denying it is a prevalent and common theme. Frankly .. on average, homosexuals seem to allow their entire lives to be defined by sex, with an abnormal preoccupation with sex.

That is not a healthy environment for children, and children do not belong in it at all. Pointing out other situations which are also unhealthy for children does not change that fact. There are other situations, and we need less, not more of it.

And the reality might be even worse than is now thought .. given that many suggest that male child victims are dramatically underreported as compared to abused female children, due to the stigmas attached to heterosexual males having been homosexually assaulted.

Look at how many victims have subsequently come forward in the Sandusky case ... and how long he was able to operate without being exposed! How many boys were sexually assaulted by the pedophile priests? How many victims are just too ashamed to come forward?

All I know is that anyone who makes excuses, or gives cover to these demons by offering the type of lies and distortions that are so prevalent from the homosexual community, and represented here on this thread are engaging in dastardly conduct, and deserve whatever ridicule they might receive.

I find it disgusting and infuriating ... and my attitude toward those that do this cannot be deterred by that worn out tactic of claiming homophobia. I have a phobia regarding child molesters and the liars who offer them cover stories. That's where my phobia begins and ends.
So you STILL can't come up with anything from a science-based, non-religious source to support your uninformed long-winded rants?
 
Old 07-13-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
Because I had truth to impart - and something worthwhile to say.
Don't quit your day job - you're not cut out to be a comedian.
 
Old 07-13-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by adiosToreador View Post
Nope. Did I specifically say that? Freudian slip much?
You asked if my panties were in a bunch - generally only women wear panties - you know that I am a man - a man who wears panties is by defintion a crossdresser.

I suggest that you sharpen your reasoning skills.

I don't think much of Dr. Freud - Carl Rogers was a much better theoretician.
 
Old 07-13-2012, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
You asked if my panties were in a bunch - generally only women wear panties - you know that I am a man - a man who wears panties is by defintion a crossdresser.

I suggest that you sharpen your reasoning skills.
Or one should should stop taking things literally.

Y'know.

SInce "Getting your panties in a twist" is a well known idiom that has nothing to do whether or not one is actually wearing panties.

Again though, that "logic" thing that just seems to slip cavemen.
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