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Old 07-15-2012, 03:01 PM
 
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I thought the stimulus was going to "create" 4 million jobs or whatever number they were throwing around. What happened to that trillion dollars? Anybody?

Yeah and their disasterous health care was going to create 400,000 jobs IMMEDIATELY too.

I guess they probably counted on all the new IRS agents to enforce the travesty the American public didn't want?
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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I'm asking myself the same question. If it wasn't for Teabaggers (a.k.a. Republicans) in Congress, the American economy would be in much better shape today. Republicans have done everything in their power since taking over the House in Congress to sabotage the US Economy.
I didn't know there were that many homosexuals in Congress. And even if there were, what would their sexual orientation have to do with the economy? Care to name those homosexuals to which you refer?
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:01 PM
 
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1 million more than Bush at the same time might not sound like a huge amount but I'll take +1 million employed Americans over the alternative, Republican policies just don't do as well and that's what our choices are. We have to pick one of the two and the Republican one produced 1 million fewer jobs. That's just the facts.
How about another fact. Obama has had more people out of work and an economy that has no confidence. He has had a BETTER chance to create more jobs because so many are out of work. Bush did well seeing as how during most of his tenure he didnt have a ton of people out of work.

Why is this so hard for you people to understand? Where exactly are these policies of Obama's that will lead to confidence and lower unemployment? THEY DONT EXIST
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:08 PM
 
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These are the same folks who were screaming that unemployment at 4.5% is just unacceptable and on and on. Now 8.5% is just fine to them and if it's not it's of course all the republicans fault. Liberalism definitely is a mental disease as someone stated before in this thread I believe.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:12 PM
 
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I don't know where any of them get off saying (D or R) they create jobs, it is a fallacy they like to take credit for, but the fact is, jobs are created in the private sector and we all know how that is doing.
Yep jobs are created by he private sector BUT you miss one important point. If someone is trying to take you out you will respond by protecting yourself. Obama is hurting people and small business with too much regulation, too much taxation and of course there is ObamaTax, the private sector small business can not afford to hire and will not invest or hire. It is that simple.

Several try to warn you that businesses and the wealthy are not going to take this like sitting ducks, would you? And in their protectionism, yes they are getting burned but have more power to protect themselves, and because you do not understand, you will get burned yourself.

So keep spouting about something you do not understand and you will get what you asked for lol. Remember, the rich are rich because they DO understand and if you are hurt even more in the process so be it.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:28 PM
 
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These are the same folks who were screaming that unemployment at 4.5% is just unacceptable and on and on. Now 8.5% is just fine to them and if it's not it's of course all the republicans fault. Liberalism definitely is a mental disease as someone stated before in this thread I believe.
Here, let's remind them.
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The unemployment rate dipped to 5.4 from 5.5 percent in July, mainly due to a decline in the labor force, bringing the rate to its lowest since September 2001.

But the Kerry campaign notes that despite the recent job gains, the economy has still lost about 1 million jobs since Bush took office in early 2001, meaning Bush is likely to become the first president since the Depression era's Herbert Hoover to complete his term with an overall drop in U.S. payrolls.
Roger Altman, senior economic advisor to Kerry, told CNNfn that even with the most recent gain, the administration's job performance has been weak.

"You need about 150,000 new jobs a month to keep even with growth in population," he said. "Taken in proper context, it's just not a very good record."
Unemployment rate drops as job creation rebounds - Sep. 3, 2004
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The unemployment rate fell to 5 percent from 5.1 percent in May, the Labor Department reported, the lowest since a matching reading in September 2001, the month of the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington. Economists had forecast the rate would remain unchanged at 5.1 percent.

But the department's survey of employers showed they added just 146,000 jobs to payrolls in June, up from a revised 104,000 in May. That was well short of the average forecast for a net gain of 195,000 jobs last month, according to economists surveyed by Briefing.com.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/07/08/news...june/index.htm

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Employment was up in virtually every sector of the economy and the country as a whole added 193,000 jobs, the Labor Department reported. The unemployment rate fell to 4.7 percent, the lowest it has been since July 2001.

The report also revised upward the employment gains for November and December, increasing the total number of new jobs created in those months to 81,000. Though total job growth remains at a slower pace than at this point in past recoveries, the 687,000 jobs added in the last three months was one of the strongest showings of the current economic expansion.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/03/bu...3cnd-econ.html

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Old 07-15-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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LOL. Now its a good thing. Amazing how their minds work aint it.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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Yes...the problem is that they are all for illegal aliens.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:31 PM
 
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Email is the favorite mode of communication for conspiracy theorists. A smart person would immediately flag such garbage as spam.
Exactly. I can't believe the delusional chain e-mails that get passed around. There was one during the campaign in 2008 where Obama allegedly said that our National Anthem was too violent and that he'd consider singing it if it was something like "I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing".

Think about that. It was being forwarded to thousands. PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVED IT.

I remember going through the e-mail about and providing the full context for all the quotes in Obama's book, and sending it to everyone who was in the forward list, from the people who sent it to me. Such as the line about standing with the Muslims if things were to get ugly. The e-mail isolates that part, but excludes the preceding line, which brings up Muslims possibly getting treated (internment camps) like the Japanese, Italians, and Germans in the 1942. I went though every line, and provided sources. Some couldn't have sources because the lines weren't even in the book at all, so I let them know that. I swear, a few of them came back and said something along the lines of it not debunking the claims, but reinforcing them. Any fact checking is either "TEH LIBEL MEDIA BIAZ!!1!". Anyone who brings up facts, like I did, is just some "dirty liberal socialist communist *other word they don't know the meaning of*".

How can you deal with someone that delusional?
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:11 PM
 
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A large part of the debt under the Obama Administration is the legacy of the trillion dollar wars and unfunded tax cuts for the super-rich that Bush started that Obama now has to deal with. Bush Got a surplus and turned it into biggest deficit this country has ever seen. Until you address that, you have no credibility to attack Obama on the economy.



"HAS TO DEAL WITH"?

He extended it!

That means it's Obama's tax cut for the super rich.

Come back when your own house is in order.


And Bush's portion of the Iraq War was $554 billion (2003-2008).

Got a problem with those numbers, take it up with CBO.

I suppose staying in Afghanistan (who knows why?) and going to war with Libya earn us bonus miles so they don't count.

"R' after their name = bad war

"D" after their name = good war





Bush had a $160 billion deficit the year before Democrats took over Congress.

It's been blowing up ever since.

And don't even think about giving credit to Clinton for 1999.

We had to shut down the government to force him to agree to spending cuts.

He was dragged kicking and screaming to the alter of fiscal responsibility.



He did give NAFTA and the 2000 China Trade Act.

If your job went somewhere, thank Bill Clinton.
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