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Old 07-16-2012, 12:44 AM
 
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Exactly. I can't believe the delusional chain e-mails that get passed around. There was one during the campaign in 2008 where Obama allegedly said that our National Anthem was too violent and that he'd consider singing it if it was something like "I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing".

Think about that. It was being forwarded to thousands. PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVED IT.

I remember going through the e-mail about and providing the full context for all the quotes in Obama's book, and sending it to everyone who was in the forward list, from the people who sent it to me. Such as the line about standing with the Muslims if things were to get ugly. The e-mail isolates that part, but excludes the preceding line, which brings up Muslims possibly getting treated (internment camps) like the Japanese, Italians, and Germans in the 1942. I went though every line, and provided sources. Some couldn't have sources because the lines weren't even in the book at all, so I let them know that. I swear, a few of them came back and said something along the lines of it not debunking the claims, but reinforcing them. Any fact checking is either "TEH LIBEL MEDIA BIAZ!!1!". Anyone who brings up facts, like I did, is just some "dirty liberal socialist communist *other word they don't know the meaning of*".

How can you deal with someone that delusional?
You don't deal with people that delusional. You let them fester in their own ignorance.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:47 AM
 
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President Obama has created ONE MILLION more jobs than Bush:

At This Point, Obama Has Created One Million More Jobs Than Bush
OBAMA HAS CREATED MORE GOVENMENT JOBS. BIG WHOOP! It is relatively easy to hirer people using other people's money.
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:00 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Lithium View Post
Exactly. I can't believe the delusional chain e-mails that get passed around. There was one during the campaign in 2008 where Obama allegedly said that our National Anthem was too violent and that he'd consider singing it if it was something like "I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing".

Think about that. It was being forwarded to thousands. PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVED IT.

I remember going through the e-mail about and providing the full context for all the quotes in Obama's book, and sending it to everyone who was in the forward list, from the people who sent it to me. Such as the line about standing with the Muslims if things were to get ugly. The e-mail isolates that part, but excludes the preceding line, which brings up Muslims possibly getting treated (internment camps) like the Japanese, Italians, and Germans in the 1942. I went though every line, and provided sources. Some couldn't have sources because the lines weren't even in the book at all, so I let them know that. I swear, a few of them came back and said something along the lines of it not debunking the claims, but reinforcing them. Any fact checking is either "TEH LIBEL MEDIA BIAZ!!1!". Anyone who brings up facts, like I did, is just some "dirty liberal socialist communist *other word they don't know the meaning of*".

How can you deal with someone that delusional?
I posted the e mail after I read it and found it to be spot on, appearently, you and NY Guy are in a state of denial and think Obama can do no wrong, Gee I wonder why?
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:04 AM
 
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"HAS TO DEAL WITH"?

He extended it!

That means it's Obama's tax cut for the super rich.

Come back when your own house is in order.


And Bush's portion of the Iraq War was $554 billion (2003-2008).

Got a problem with those numbers, take it up with CBO.

I suppose staying in Afghanistan (who knows why?) and going to war with Libya earn us bonus miles so they don't count.

"R' after their name = bad war

"D" after their name = good war





Bush had a $160 billion deficit the year before Democrats took over Congress.

It's been blowing up ever since.

And don't even think about giving credit to Clinton for 1999.

We had to shut down the government to force him to agree to spending cuts.

He was dragged kicking and screaming to the alter of fiscal responsibility.



He did give NAFTA and the 2000 China Trade Act.

If your job went somewhere, thank Bill Clinton.
Exactly! See post #44
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:06 AM
 
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OBAMA HAS CREATED MORE GOVENMENT JOBS. BIG WHOOP! It is relatively easy to hirer people using other people's money.
500k government jobs have been LOST under Obama, fyi.

I think you may be confusing the massive government hiring presidencies with Dubya and Ray-gun.
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:15 AM
 
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500k government jobs have been LOST under Obama, fyi.
That's state an local employees, the federal government has expanded.
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:17 AM
 
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
"HAS TO DEAL WITH"?

He extended it!

That means it's Obama's tax cut for the super rich.
Obama's one weird socialist if he keeps extending tax cuts for the rich.


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Bush had a $160 billion deficit the year before Democrats took over Congress.

It's been blowing up ever since.
LOL. What spending programs did the Dems suddenly jack up when they took over congress during Bush's term?

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And don't even think about giving credit to Clinton for 1999.

We had to shut down the government to force him to agree to spending cuts.

He was dragged kicking and screaming to the alter of fiscal responsibility.
Yet somehow you guys consistently forget that he raised taxes on the rich as well. That sorta helped with deficits too, I hear.


Also, does the president get credit and blame for the economy or just simply congress?
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:18 AM
 
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That's state an local employees, the federal government has expanded.
And the vast majority of that expansion is in the Pentagon. The one area that Republicans get enough spending in.
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:19 AM
 
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It's all those "Green Jobs" like oil lobbyist.


Darrell Issa explores the Obama administration definition of Green Jobs - June 7, 2012 - YouTube
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:23 AM
 
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And the vast majority of that expansion is in the Pentagon. The one area that Republicans get enough spending in.
Why are you trying to attribute 500K jobs cut at the state and local level to Obama if you knew they were at the state and local level?
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