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Obviously, in your eagerness for the opportunity to attack Obama, you skipped right over my answer regarding what I meant by the word "superior." If you had paused long enough to read it or think about it, you wouldn't have had to waste time typing your response, but.....then that would have also cost you the opportunity to post about Obama. However, for your convenience I've posted a link to my answer.
So is it not part of most conservatives and Republican belief that personal accountability and material success indicate who are the winners and who are the losers? Since when don't you guys believe in a hierarchy in the work place and in your careers? Do you now support the idea of everybody at work and career are equals....sort of like that dreaded word communism? According to, from what I can tell about conservatives, indeed in terms of careers that Romney is superior to me if judged by the standards of material wealth and power which seem to be so dominant in the U.S.. He's most likely superior to you in that regard as well. If Romney were elected President, regardless of how I may feel about what he may do as President, I would without doubt, at a personal level, show him respect as the POTUS. (Which is what was being discussed initially when I made this post, whether or not roysoldboy could or would show respect to Obama with Obama being in a superior position as POTUS in terms of careet success).
You asked, What makes Obama superior over anyone? Well, Obama's success is evident by the very fact that he was elected President of the United States, which in terms of career success makes him superior to most of us, if we were never elected as POTUS. That's a fact of career success you can't deny, even if you didn't want him to be elected. The fact is that the majority of people wanted Obama to be President, and being a politician certainly involves winning elections, so I don't see how his election can be regarded as anything other than a success in his career.
As for Obama's "success" during his term in office, well, no need to go there because there are many opinions regarding that issue, and it seems that history will ultimately be the judge of his success as President. that's for the future.
IMO, the contribution of Obama's Presidency to the division of the country is based on the fact that he is of mixed race and visually identified as black. I have no doubt you will disagree. I also attribute the division in this country to the Republican's insistence of no compromise, as well as the extreme hate talk found all over conservative talk radio.
There is nothing superior about any president, other than their marvelous ways in charming the misty-eyed and romantic, by telling them what they want to hear. Of course, even a grandiloquent liar who wins by convincing people to buy their product is successful, nevertheless the honesty and quality that may be inherent to the product sold. Is it possible for you to cease idolizing your favorite puppet ever and learn how to be objective rather than naturally subjective when considering a person with charisma, skin tone be damned?
We are going to need a miracle in 2016 regardless who is sitting in the Oval Office for the next four years. That miracle will be finding the person who willl work hard to fix everything that has been broken by Obama and if re-elected what he will continue to break, or if Romney gets the vote, fix what he breaks. I don't think either Obama or Romney has anything good to offer this country and the people.
Sorry you find yourself in such a losing situation. Maybe you should consider running for President. If you know the solutions, please jump right in there. "Hard work" is not the fix. One has to know where and how to "work hard".....and have answers leading to the solutions before they begin "hard work." You can "work hard" all day and all night, going in the wrong direction, and never achieve the solutions you desire.
1960 Stanley Ann Dunham graduated high school and Malcolm X forms the Nation of Islam Temple No.67 in Seattle, did their paths cross?
besides this quote being echoed throughout birtherdom i have yet to find evidence that the seattle temple was founded in 1960 or if malcolm x was there for the founding.
but obama would have been conceived around the beginning of november 1960 and we know that stanley ann was in honolulu then and that malcolm was in new york ( doing a radio debate with baynard rustin ).
There is nothing superior about any president, other than their marvelous ways in charming the misty-eyed and romantic, by telling them what they want to hear. Of course, even a grandiloquent liar who wins by convincing people to buy their product is successful, nevertheless the honesty and quality that may be inherent to the product sold. Is it possible for you to cease idolizing your favorite puppet ever and learn how to be objective rather than naturally subjective when considering a person with charisma, skin tone be damned?
Is it possible for you to step back for a minute from your enchantment with your own intelligence and negative bias about a particular president and actually think about how our society perceives and defines "success" and "superior" at this point?
AGAIN, when I used the words superior and success I was/am referring to what is considered "success" and "superior" in today's U.S. society in terms of WORK and CAREER.
If your career is as a politician, part of what determines your level of success and superior position to other politicians in your career is how many elections you win and to what political offices you are elected. Now, most people consider the office of President of the United States to be a pretty high level political office. Being elected as POTUS certainly indicates success as a politician, even for George W. Bush!
I'm not talking about personal worth. It's you and the others who want to demean any idea of success by President Obama who continue refuse to accept the idea of success and superiority in terms of WORK and CAREER who keep redefining what I said and what I mean.
It certainly seems to me that especially the politically far right and extreme Republicans cannot sing loudly enough the praises of people who are "successes" in their work/career/business paths and absolutely acknowledge their "superiority"...and those people define success an superiority in terms of achievement in their careers/work.
"idolizing your favorite puppet"....LOL...never miss an opportunity to insult and patronize. ...even if it does not enhance your argument.
that's nice. do you believe any of the statements i just made are false?
It doesn't matter. The past is actually quite irrelevant compared to the present. Namely, the fact that he is a failure of the highest order. Of course, his Marxist background is troubling as well. Expect more dividing of the nation, and class warfare, while the fundamental issues are completely ignored.
which connections are known now that weren't known in 2008?
You have read the books? Seen the flyers for his speaking engagements, particularly for the DSA and the short-lived New Party of the '90's in Chicago? Was all this info available? Sure, maybe. Who bothered to read any of it? Even if they did, they reacted by supporting him anyway as a direct reaction to November 2000 and the 8 years following, forgetting what that event meant for the American political system and its... honesty, for lack of an acceptable word.
The problem with 'progressives' is that they don't bother beyond TV time when making decisions, like say, when supporting presidential candidates who are polar opposites of the last disliked one. Such spite is childish if the token cherished is taken at mere face value, nonetheless for nothing less than hate, as no message was heard beyond passively accepting important legislation before knowing its contents. That is a problem suffered by Americans of whatever political view, period. Had anyone researched this guy thoroughly in 2008, he would never have won, though the perquisite cries of "Racism!" would have done enough to quell any dissent of this figurehead, who was meant to be 'elected' for no other reason that no one else could do what he is doing, which is not a good thing. A narcotized populace informed by a pocketed media can only select from what is offered. His story wasn't fully known till some time after the election, when people actually bothered to peruse the anti-W.
Is it possible for you to step back for a minute from your enchantment with your own intelligence and negative bias about a particular president and actually think about how our society perceives and defines "success" and "superior" at this point?
AGAIN, when I used the words superior and success I was/am referring to what is considered "success" and "superior" in today's U.S. society in terms of WORK and CAREER.
If your career is as a politician, part of what determines your level of success and superior position to other politicians in your career is how many elections you win and to what political offices you are elected. Now, most people consider the office of President of the United States to be a pretty high level political office. Being elected as POTUS certainly indicates success as a politician, even for George W. Bush!
I'm not talking about personal worth. It's you and the others who want to demean any idea of success by President Obama who continue refuse to accept the idea of success and superiority in terms of WORK and CAREER who keep redefining what I said and what I mean.
It certainly seems to me that especially the politically far right and extreme Republicans cannot sing loudly enough the praises of people who are "successes" in their work/career/business paths and absolutely acknowledge their "superiority"...and those people define success an superiority in terms of achievement in their careers/work.
"idolizing your favorite puppet"....LOL...never miss an opportunity to insult and patronize. ...even if it does not enhance your argument.
No, you are intentionally attempting to flame anyone who speaks against your 'favorite puppet', and that is what any politician, especially those holding the Oval Office are. Puppets. If you cannot comprehend that, don't bother with the subject of politics as you are naive and prone to personality worship. Personally, I adore it when someone who defends 'progressives' by lashing out at what they paint as wrongful 'negative-based' intelligence. It proves you will only accept what supports your dogma. Thank you, shill.
Again, I find nothing superior about either W or Obama; they both earned everything they got in terms of 'achieving' the lofty Oval Office by vulgar means, without merit and much hypocrisy, successfully. One by contrived usurpation, the other by being supposedly anti-thetical to the usurper, and just as contrived. It's a tandem act, actually, and wanting only shallow appearances for the sake of vanity and a hand-smack across the face to your equally gullible co-horts on the other side of the shopping aisle is ludicrous. You know why Obama is in office? To quell the sentiment built up over the years 2000-2008. That's it. That, and to further the aims of what you might hilariously term the 1%. Dare I declare (I do) that his ethnicity is being used as an excellent cover to do exactly that, and it is disgusting! Reality is hard on those who find merit in figureheads and feel good talk-talk. Obama's success is just as atrocious as W's- silly people play into their dramas and make them successful, turn them into religion.
Insults? Please, as an American deploying defenses for the indefensible American body politic is the only insult being tossed about here.
The only patronizing going on is that anyone can declare with a straight face that American politics and anyone involved with it follows a legitimate process. That is demonstrable, particularly in the last 11 1/2 years.
'Enhance' an argument? Go back to writing copy for "The Nation" or take up script-writing. The "Far-Left" as you call it certainly wants to redefine success as easy government living and that is far more ruinous since it coos those damaged by so-called "Far-Right" 'success' stories, exemplified by the vengeful angel from Chicago being deposited in a no-lose scenario to further such righteous success on behalf of his funders, known & most certainly unknown puppet-masters with loot to spread. Anyone pro-business in the small-scale sense ought not to feel represented as they are not, unless useful to those further up the chain. It's a tandem act, you see?
No, you are intentionally attempting to flame anyone who speaks against your 'favorite puppet', and that is what any politician, especially those holding the Oval Office are. Puppets. If you cannot comprehend that, don't bother with the subject of politics as you are naive and prone to personality worship. Personally, I adore it when someone who defends 'progressives' by lashing out at what they paint as wrongful 'negative-based' intelligence. It proves you will only accept what supports your dogma. Thank you, shill.
Again, I find nothing superior about either W or Obama; they both earned everything they got in terms of 'achieving' the lofty Oval Office by vulgar means, without merit and much hypocrisy, successfully. One by contrived usurpation, the other by being supposedly anti-thetical to the usurper, and just as contrived. It's a tandem act, actually, and wanting only shallow appearances for the sake of vanity and a hand-smack across the face to your equally gullible co-horts on the other side of the shopping aisle is ludicrous. You know why Obama is in office? To quell the sentiment built up over the years 2000-2008. That's it. That, and to further the aims of what you might hilariously term the 1%. Dare I declare (I do) that his ethnicity is being used as an excellent cover to do exactly that, and it is disgusting! Reality is hard on those who find merit in figureheads and feel good talk-talk. Obama's success is just as atrocious as W's- silly people play into their dramas and make them successful, turn them into religion.
Insults? Please, as an American deploying defenses for the indefensible American body politic is the only insult being tossed about here.
The only patronizing going on is that anyone can declare with a straight face that American politics and anyone involved with it follows a legitimate process. That is demonstrable, particularly in the last 11 1/2 years.
'Enhance' an argument? Go back to writing copy for "The Nation" or take up script-writing. The "Far-Left" as you call it certainly wants to redefine success as easy government living and that is far more ruinous since it coos those damaged by so-called "Far-Right" 'success' stories, exemplified by the vengeful angel from Chicago being deposited in a no-lose scenario to further such righteous success on behalf of his funders, known & most certainly unknown puppet-masters with loot to spread. Anyone pro-business in the small-scale sense ought not to feel represented as they are not, unless useful to those further up the chain. It's a tandem act, you see?
Flaming? Seems to me that's your field of expertise. Obviously you refuse to "understand" what I'm saying so instead you write an entire post of insults toward me and anyone else who disagrees with your "lofty" complicated political "machinations" and then babble on and on and on with your Obama bashing. My references to defining "success" and "superior" were to the far right definitions; I just used their own definitions for those words in re work and career. You seem to enjoy your perceived superiority to everybody else here and rant on about how everybody but you is stupid and shallow regarding politics. You must have a lot of friends out there in the world. LOL However, I am decidedly unimpressed.
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However, for your convenience I've posted a link to my answer.
...even if it does not enhance your argument.
Obviously you refuse to "understand" what I'm saying so instead you write an entire post of insults toward me and anyone else who disagrees with your "lofty" complicated political "machinations" and then babble on and on and on with your Obama bashing. My references to defining "success" and "superior" were to the far right definitions; I just used their own definitions for those words in re work and career. You seem to enjoy your perceived superiority to everybody else here and rant on about how everybody but you is stupid and shallow regarding politics. You must have a lot of friends out there in the world. LOL 
