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Old 07-23-2012, 08:44 AM
 
Location: WY
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I was reading another thread in this section of the board talking about welfare, and someone commented that this was one of the reasons that this upcoming election was so important.

I think one of the most important reasons that this upcoming election is so important is the make up of the Supreme Court. One more liberal leaning judge on the panel and many issues that this the supreme court deals with (whether its gay rights, gun legislation, health care etc) may have a different outcome than conservatives would like to see. Political activism on the bench is a real concern.

Presidents on both side of the aisle come and go, but supreme court judges are on the bench for a very long time.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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I was reading another thread in this section of the board talking about welfare, and someone commented that this was one of the reasons that this upcoming election was so important.

I think one of the most important reasons that this upcoming election is so important is the make up of the Supreme Court. One more liberal leaning judge on the panel and many issues that this the supreme court deals with (whether its gay rights, gun legislation, health care etc) may have a different outcome than conservatives would like to see. Political activism on the bench is a real concern.

Presidents on both side of the aisle come and go, but supreme court judges are on the bench for a very long time.
I think you're right pointing out that an important impcact of the next election may be the appointment of a Supreme Court Justice. I believe the Court has become the bastion of jusicial activism and has deecided some, many cases based on partisan politics and not in keeping with what the framers of our Constitution envisioned. There are several reasons why President Obama should be re-elected. Protecting our judicial system from further perversion is one of them.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:54 AM
 
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I was reading another thread in this section of the board talking about welfare, and someone commented that this was one of the reasons that this upcoming election was so important.

I think one of the most important reasons that this upcoming election is so important is the make up of the Supreme Court. One more liberal leaning judge on the panel and many issues that this the supreme court deals with (whether its gay rights, gun legislation, health care etc) may have a different outcome than conservatives would like to see. Political activism on the bench is a real concern.

Presidents on both side of the aisle come and go, but supreme court judges are on the bench for a very long time.
You are absolutely correct. The president is little more than a figurehead. Neither he nor the VP are good for much of anything. The president consoles the nation in the face of national tragedy. The VP goes to funerals of foreign heads of state. That's about it.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:04 AM
 
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I think you're right pointing out that an important impcact of the next election may be the appointment of a Supreme Court Justice. I believe the Court has become the bastion of jusicial activism and has deecided some, many cases based on partisan politics and not in keeping with what the framers of our Constitution envisioned. There are several reasons why President Obama should be re-elected. Protecting our judicial system from further perversion is one of them.
How deluded could one be!? Obama appoints TWO Liberal activists to the bench and you go on to say that he is "protecting" the Judicial branch? This is exactly what is wrong in America........ Not a very informed and smart voting base.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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Every time the federal courts come out with a decision that is contrary to popular sentiment, there is a great outcry about "liberal judges," "conservative judges," "activist judges" - not to mention a general call to "reform" the courts, or do away with them altogether. Such criticisms are hardly justified. Indeed, it would be difficult to find a more staid group than those that make up the federal judiciary. (One does not get ahead by espousing radical ideas, one way or the other, about the law: witness the failed confirmation of the appointment of Judge Robert Bork to the Supreme Court.)

Given the role of the Supreme Court (and lower federal courts) in the system of checks and balances provided in the Constitution, an independent judiciary is essential, for it acts as a curb against the encroachment of government on individual rights and liberty. Under the constitutional provision for separation of powers, federal judges are not supposed to be subject to political influence in fulfilling the court's role. A federal judge, who serves with life tenure on good behavior, can wield great power; which is why it is important to appoint "qualified" persons and not just political ideologues to the federal bench. That is why federal judges are appointed by the President subject to confirmation by the Senate and not elected.

Our courts are the great levelers, for all men stand equal before the law. But while we are a nation of laws and not men, it is men who administer the laws and mete out justice. Most state judges are elected officials, and others appointed by executive authority; and there are few whose judgments are not influenced by politics, whether it be associated with getting reelected or avoiding impeachment from office. To make federal judges accountable in this way would turn the judiciary into courts of popular appeal, which is not what the framers of the Constitution had in mind.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:25 AM
 
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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I think you're right pointing out that an important impcact of the next election may be the appointment of a Supreme Court Justice. I believe the Court has become the bastion of jusicial activism and has deecided some, many cases based on partisan politics and not in keeping with what the framers of our Constitution envisioned. There are several reasons why President Obama should be re-elected. Protecting our judicial system from further perversion is one of them.
Lol nice troll but no one could accept the idea that you are serious with this post. SCOTUS abandoned the constitution long ago , but if you think jackasses like Ginsberg do not take part in judicial activism you are either extremely naive or extremely brain damaged. I'll let you decide.
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:39 AM
 
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How has a "conservative" President nominating a "conservative" Chief Justice work out for the right in the past? Remember the "Obamacare" ruling?
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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I was reading another thread in this section of the board talking about welfare, and someone commented that this was one of the reasons that this upcoming election was so important.

I think one of the most important reasons that this upcoming election is so important is the make up of the Supreme Court. One more liberal leaning judge on the panel and many issues that this the supreme court deals with (whether its gay rights, gun legislation, health care etc) may have a different outcome than conservatives would like to see. Political activism on the bench is a real concern.

Presidents on both side of the aisle come and go, but supreme court judges are on the bench for a very long time.
In general, conservative justices are not going to retire with a Democrat president, and liberal justices won't retire with a Republican president. There's generally a lot of pressure to replace Supreme Court justices with somebody similar, so I doubt whether they'll be much of a change.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Florida
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While I am a conservative, I would much rather see a Supreme Court made up on a-political people that do not lean one way or the other. I would rather the court make decisions based on the Constitution and the actual merits of the case, rather than leaning left or right.

However, this is not an option and whoever is President is going to appoint someone who follows their lead.
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