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Old 06-14-2012, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Timothy Bradley won a decision last Saturday against WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao(who has been politically controversial lately due to his religious convictions), and now the result is going to be reviewed by the Nevada State Attorney General's office.
WBO to review Pacquiao-Bradley decision; Nevada attorney general might follow suit - Yahoo! Sports.

Meanwhile - Roger Clemens - a retired Major League Baseball pitcher - and likely future Hall of Famer - has been on trial for perjury, making false statements, and lying to Congress - all during his testimony during a Congressional hearing 4 years ago, concerning use of steroids and other performance enhancing drugs in professional baseball.
News Guide to Clemens trial as case goes to jury | Fox News.

I can understand the Nevada state attorney general having an issue with the decision. There is some controversy over whether Bradley actually won the fight - and a bad verdict will possibly hurt the Nevada economy - both in the entertainment and gambling industries. If anything occurred that was "not kosher" concerning the decision - the state of Nevada certainly should be on top of it.

The Clemens trial is different animal(which is distinct from a human being - for you evolutionists who think that humans are also animals ). In my opinion(and many others) Congress had no jurisdiction over drug use in major league baseball. I am certain they justified their interference by citing the Interstate Commerce Clause - but that part of the Constitution has been abused to an insane level - it was only meant to keep states from restricting trade between their borders, in othe3r words -they could not behave like independent nations. Instead - Congress has used it to regulate areas that were never meant to be in their purview - from farm plots to health care insurance - including performance enhancing drugs in professional baseball.

Clemens either did or did not lie to Congress - that is up to the jury to decide. My position is that he should never have been on trial in the3 first place, because Congress had no business being involved ina league matter. Nevada is on firm ground, because a corrupt decision could impact their business - it is in the states interest to ensure that a subjective outcome like a boxing decision - is fairly rendered. Congress has no interest in ensuring that a professional baseball league's players are performing without chemical aids. Maybe a state does, but steroid , EPA, ect... regulation is not a federal matter.

What do you think?
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:25 AM
 
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Isn't it common knowledge that boxing is rigged???
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Old 06-14-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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I'm so glad that Harry Reid think this is worthy of an investigation and legislation but not the WH security leaks or the perjury of AG-Holder.

How's that Senate Budget vote from the bi-partisanly passed US House budgets coming. Have they made it to the floor or is Harry Reid too busy worrying about a boxing match?

Sen. Harry Reid Considering Boxing Legislation After Last Weekend’s Pacquiao Loss | Mediaite
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Isn't it common knowledge that boxing is rigged???
I thought it was wrestling.
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Old 06-19-2012, 01:32 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I thought it was wrestling.
Wrestling(professional) isn't rigged - it is scripted.
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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So - does anyone have an opinion on the extent of what should be under Congress's purview?
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Steroid use is illegal under federal law, the violation of that law would be Congressional business, wouldn't it?

Also, there's a give and take between baseball and Congress, since baseball technically violates antitrust laws. Congress gets to but-in to baseball's business because it included baseball in an exception to those laws.
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Steroid use is illegal under federal law, the violation of that law would be Congressional business, wouldn't it?

Also, there's a give and take between baseball and Congress, since baseball technically violates antitrust laws. Congress gets to but-in to baseball's business because it included baseball in an exception to those laws.
Regulation of steroids is not something that Congress should be doing either - so you are using one unconstitutional use of power to justify another.

Is there anything that prevents another baseball league from competing with MLB?
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Regulation of steroids is not something that Congress should be doing either - so you are using one unconstitutional use of power to justify another.

Is there anything that prevents another baseball league from competing with MLB?
1. Regulation of an industry is exactly what Congress is allowed to do through legislation.

2. Major League Baseball.
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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1. Regulation of an industry is exactly what Congress is allowed to do through legislation.

2. Major League Baseball.
1. Can you cite which congressional power listed in Article 1, Section 8 "allows" Congress to regulate any industry?

2. Explain, please.
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