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Old 08-14-2012, 10:27 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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'Religious' and 'Conservative' seem to go together like peanut butter and jelly in the States...this has probably been the case since at least Reagan. I've heard that the old school conservatives, whatever you want to call them (sometimes inaccurately called 'fiscal' conservatives) like say the wealthy Rockefeller's or something, who weren't really socially conservative, are a 'dying breed', although if you look at voting patterns it seems fairly wealthy areas like Orange County and much of Long Island is quite Republican.

Would I be right in saying that these conservatives are still less religious than conservatives in the South and Midwest? It seems that working class conservatives also seem rarer in these areas.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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'Religious' and 'Conservative' seem to go together like peanut butter and jelly in the States...this has probably been the case since at least Reagan.
It goes back a lot longer than Reagan. In fact, it was religious folks of the south that largely kicked Goldwater out of contention in the 1968 campaign (The "Wallace Hallelujah" crowd). And in fact, one could potentially go back all the way to the beginning of time to see the impact on the south.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:33 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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That's been my perception. Having lived in the midwest and the south, it's difficult to be considered a "good christian" if you don't also vote for a right wing candidate (preferably a Republican). I've met several conservatives from the Northeast (relatively speaking) who are not religious at all yet are fairly conservative on economic issues. Even though I'm religious, I prefer those conservatives than the "Christian Right" ones because I don't think religion should be so closely tied to politics.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:44 AM
 
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"Conservatives" in the northeast and west coast are tyoically more educated, and use more common sense. As a whole, people in these areas are more educated overall, the cost of living is much higher, and these blue areas are usually considered more desired places to live, generally. Also, the term conservative used to mean, "what I do in my back yard (or in my bedroom) is my own business and no one elses, and what you do is your business, and your right." Now, the definition seems to be, for so-called conservatives to tell others what they can and can't do based on their religious beliefs, or how they minipulate, or rationalize biblical scripture to justify their preachings, often indicating because "I am a Christian, I am morally better than you."
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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A better question would be... what makes people religious? And does it guarantee an interference with personal freedoms and require collectivism?
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:25 AM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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, and these blue areas are usually considered more desired places to live, generally.


I seriously doubt that to be a fact.
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:25 AM
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I wouldn't say that they are less religious, it is more a matter of the style of their religious beliefs.

In the West and Northeast conservatives still tend to be religious but they are not militant or literal in their beliefs like some people in the South and Midwest.

You are not going to find as many conservatives in the West and Northeast that actually believe in a literal 6 day creation story, or a young flat earth that survived a global flood. The Western conservatives that I have lived with my entire life seem to understand that religious texts are highly allegorical and symbolic in nature unlike their Bible Belt brethren.
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:32 AM
 
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, and these blue areas are usually considered more desired places to live, generally.


I seriously doubt that to be a fact.
You shouldn't.
I assure you that there are more educated europeans and asians in NYC and Boston than in the trashy Dallas, Phoenix and Houston.
Even illegal mexicans don't find The South appealing anymore.
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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I live in the Midwest, am not religious, and am a staunch conservative on most issues. I don't really know any holy-roller conservative types either. In fact, some are even atheists.
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:49 AM
 
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'Religious' and 'Conservative' seem to go together like peanut butter and jelly in the States...this has probably been the case since at least Reagan. I've heard that the old school conservatives, whatever you want to call them (sometimes inaccurately called 'fiscal' conservatives) like say the wealthy Rockefeller's or something, who weren't really socially conservative, are a 'dying breed', although if you look at voting patterns it seems fairly wealthy areas like Orange County and much of Long Island is quite Republican.

Would I be right in saying that these conservatives are still less religious than conservatives in the South and Midwest? It seems that working class conservatives also seem rarer in these areas.

I've run into both hard-line religious right conservatives and more socially moderate/libertarian ones here in California. A few outright secular ones, too.

So I would say it's a mix out in the West, based on my experience.
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