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Old 08-19-2012, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I guess it all depends on one's understanding of Europe which by the way has been multi-cultural since the Greeks put that name on the place because it has experienced short periods of multi-cultural tolerance (Germany after all wasn't a single nation until 1871) and even longer periods of horrendous multi-cultural barbarity and intolerance. So in retrospect peaceful protest by "nationalist" parties is a huge progression for the heterogenous population that calls itself German.
Europe is a continent so that's why it can survive being "multicultural" (that is until the EU and UN start erasing national borders altogether) but a nation can not be "multicultural" eventually there will be cultural clashes and one cultural will win out. What you call "horrendous barbarity and intolerance" I call human nature. Humans tend to live in homogenous societies and cultures and that's when humans thrive. At no point in history has any country lived "multicultural" and survived. Heterogeneous societies will fall and the strongest culture remaining in the rubble will rise up. Embracing "multiculturalism" is the kiss of death it's cultural suicide. Once Eurabia and the Estados Unidos de Mexico are in place I think many people will regret embracing such foolish and naive notions like "multiculturalism."
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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They accelerate their own fall when they open the floodgates and let hordes of immigrants in bringing with them alien cultures, alien religions, and alien languages. There can be no "salad bowl" that is naive, there will always be a dominate culture and Europeans are squandering their birthright and betraying their ancestry by allowing their countries to decline.
Europe is the original salad bowl.

[that's been tossed a few times]
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:40 PM
 
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Europe is a continent so that's why it can survive being "multicultural" (that is until the EU and UN start erasing national borders altogether) but a nation can not be "multicultural" eventually there will be cultural clashes and one cultural will win out. What you call "horrendous barbarity and intolerance" I call human nature. Humans tend to live in homogenous societies and cultures and that's when humans thrive. At no point in history has any country lived "multicultural" and survived. Heterogeneous societies will fall and the strongest culture remaining in the rubble will rise up. Embracing "multiculturalism" is the kiss of death it's cultural suicide. Once Eurabia and the Estados Unidos de Mexico are in place I think many people will regret embracing such foolish and naive notions like "multiculturalism."
Then there is nothing to worry about.

[just sit back and let it play itself out]
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Old 08-19-2012, 06:47 PM
 
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Probably. But I think the Muslim numbers aren't that high in Germany like in other European countries. They are way higher in France and Great Britain. But generally speaking, I think the entirety of Europe will have a reconquista at their hands in this century.
Why are they doing this? Why are they allowing these Muslims into their countries? I can think of no logical reason other than they want cheap labor.
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:09 PM
 
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Members of German far-right group display prophet cartoons in mosque demos; protests peaceful - The Washington Post

Seem like multiculturalism is really working in Europe.

This just happens one day after a poll in Germany shows that nearly a majority of Turkish immigrants hope that one day Muslims will hold the majority in Germany.

Turks in Germany feel far from home | Germany | DW.DE | 18.08.2012

Multiculturalism has never worked whether its religious or racial. Its a farce
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:21 PM
 
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Multiculturalism has never worked whether its religious or racial. Its a farce
Then what should countries do? Create a state religion? Ban anyone who doesn't adhere to it? Insist on having a one-race population?
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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Then what should countries do? Create a state religion? Ban anyone who doesn't adhere to it? Insist on having a one-race population?
The first big step it can do is take the boot of government force off it's citizens throats. If it was wrong to use the power of the state to enforce "pro-white" measures it should be illegal to enforce pro-black/Hispanic/Asian/etc. measures via quotas, Affirmative Action, hiring preferences, etc. This intensifies racial strife as life becomes a race to control the "whip hand" of the government. Also the collapse or the elimination (whichever comes first) of the welfare state will also help as it will turn of the magnets that attract illegals to this country. Also most of the welfare state is just a wealth transfer from one class of people to another this intensifies racial and class conflict. We should also seal our border to all immigration, illegal or otherwise until we our economy gets righted again. Outsourcing may have hurt our country but we also import workers that take jobs away from American citizens.

We should also implement a rugged and robust deportation system that deports anyone who is illegal regardless of their situation in their homeland or here. If you are illegal it doesn't matter if you've evaded detection for 20 years or 20 minutes you are committing a felony simply by having your feet planted on American soil and you should be deported ASAP to your homeland.

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The 29-year-old is currently in Stony Mountain Institution serving out a nine-year sentence for manslaughter handed to him in February 2008.
He admitted to abusing and ultimately killing his girlfriend’s two-year-old son, Alfread Sirleaf.
The little boy’s body was covered with more than 100 bruises, including some showing he was likely hit with a belt or a stick. He died of brain trauma.
Court heard Clarke beat the child for various acts of misbehaviour, such as not sleeping when he was supposed to.
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Clarke’s family has connections to a former opposition political regime in Liberia, a country once ravaged by bloody civil warfare.
His family fled the country to a refugee camp in 1999, eventually arriving as refugees in Canada in October 2003.
Clarke, however failed to back up his fear of persecution claims, O’Reilly ruled in a 16-page written decision.
Mr. Clarke points out that hundreds of thousands of people have been killed in Liberia, whereas he has only killed one Canadian. Therefore, on balance, he should be allowed to stay in Canada,” O’Reilly said in summarizing one of Clarke’s main arguments.
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Thankfully sanity won out and this monster was deported however it speaks to pathetic level the western world has sunk to that this man felt that this argument could even be made. We in the western world have coddled illegals and made many of them "refugees" and they abuse this status and use it as a shield against deportation even if they commit crimes. Insanity.

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Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad. We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependants, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant-descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. So insane are we that we actually permit unmarried persons to immigrate for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiancées whom they have never seen.
-Enoch Powell
Enoch Powell: Rivers of Blood
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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Then what should countries do? Create a state religion? Ban anyone who doesn't adhere to it? Insist on having a one-race population?
Yes. And there will be no need to ban anyone; just make those who don't follow the State Religion and/or those who are of the wrong race second class citizens.

[this may require a compromise of freedom but that's just a technicality]
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Old 08-19-2012, 08:11 PM
 
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I do not agree with the "nativism" expressed here ... I see "The Know Nothing Party" is alive and well here in the USA.

Whether you approve of immigration or not it is happening. There is nothing to debate. Most countries, particularly this one are not going to shut the door to immigration, nor are they going to expel the immigrants that arrived here in the past 30 or so years.

If the concern is about illegal immigration, or opposition to granting a general amnesty against undocumented aliens who arrived here unlawfully ... then I have no quarrel with you. I am not an advocate of permitting people to emigrate illegally.

Great Britain was it's own "Melting Pot" of different ethnic peoples and cultures over the past 2,500 years: first the Britons, then the Celts and the Picts, then the Romans and other settlers from the Roman Empire, after that the Angles, the Saxons, and the Jutes. Need I mention the Vikings and the Norman French?

The argument here seems to be that recent immigrants are not assimilating fast enough into "American Culture" whatever that is. These same arguments were hurled at the Germans in 1840, the Irish in 1860, the Jews in 1880, the Italians in 1890, the Polish in 1900.

Don't worry ... they will intermarry and assimilation will take place. But America is changing and the demographics is changing ... and that is something some people worry about (but not I).
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Old 08-19-2012, 08:15 PM
 
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Then what should countries do? Create a state religion? Ban anyone who doesn't adhere to it? Insist on having a one-race population?
It's better than the alternative.

I believe in human unity, not division.
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