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Old 08-29-2012, 06:37 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Must be dead batteries in his 'laser focus on jobs' after he came back from vacation.

We are so dumb. when obama talks about jobs we fail to ask what he means when he says 'jobs'. did he mean Steve Jobs, union jobs or just do a job on us?

Maybe he could look at the regs issued by his czars that appear to be killing jobs.
Maybe he could have taled to charlie rangel...before the charges....who was in charge of the tax code.
Maybe the IRS could have supported small business by meeans of adjusting start-up complexity and cost.

Maybe Obama needs to crash the economy to start anew with a socialist flavored ideology as Michelle re-rewrites our history as she promised.

Wasn't there a pipeline in our future? oh there was this rich guy who owns a bunch of railroads and a prominent politician who was in collusion with that rich guy and owed him a favor.

then there was the promise of skyrocketing energy costs being the result of obama's energy plan part of which hinged upon loss of jobs and a skyrocketing debt.

Obama never had idea one.......he danced to the tune of his socialist handlers and gave us Solyndra as a showcase of what taxpayer money can buy.

Obama snickered at the concept of 'shovel ready' jobs he so enthusiastically promoted previously. It was a bumper sticker slogan he tossed around and then laughed at the concept that anyone should have believed him. remeber it was nancy pelosi who warned us that we should not believe the words of any campaigning politician....as she defended the failed promise of broadcasting healthcare hearings on C-span.

Obama couldn't recognize a job even if he read a description of one in his law books.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:41 AM
 
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40 months in Obama's presidency, he had already created more private sector jobs than Bush had 40 months into his presidency.
More Democratic math...where? who? what?

Are these padded stats including all those now defunct green jobs like Solyndra ?
Does it include his saved jobs of the auto industry which is not creation.As Alice Cooper would sing What about that Trillion Dollar Baby... Stimulus...shovel ready which wasn't as shovel ready as we thought.... he makes jokes about it with Immelt while we struggle along.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:53 AM
 
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I know that he hasn't run out of lies.....
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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The Dow has been back for a while so where are the jobs. Wall Street is making their money, where is the trickle down?

Our whole mess right now is Republican policy which has dominated since Reagan, combined with Republican obstruction to true solutions.
The companies that are rising in stock value are expanding their production overseas. They are not building offices/manufacturing plants or creating jobs in the US. How many major companies have their headquarters in the US but have factories/call centers/offices where jobs were outsourced in China, S. Korea, India, Taiwan,the Phillipines. That's where the money is trickling down to and American consumers get to buy the product and the money is recycled outside the country.

Was Reagan responsible for outsourcing? For giving our manufacturing and office work away to other countries?

Hint: NAFTA = Bill Clinton(D)
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:12 AM
 
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lets add in the asterisk here:

*make as much money for the owner as possible while paying the fewest amount of employees as little as possible.

Thats the true goal of businesses because it maximizes profits. Of course telling that to Americans would undermine elitist republican agenda.....

this recession is a failing of the private sector. I haven't seen any tax hikes, yet hardly any hiring.............hmmmmm

simple concepts here. We need enough people to be out there consuming if businesses are to hire, for that, in order to do that businesses need to hire and pay wages that give workers (who end up being consumers) money to spend......

The Dow has been back for a while so where are the jobs. Wall Street is making their money, where is the trickle down?

Our whole mess right now is Republican policy which has dominated since Reagan, combined with Republican obstruction to true solutions.
HC has alot to do with companies holding back because of the uncertainty in Obama's business climate which is a war on our coal and other means of energy production,life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Our condition was created by Congress-Clinton specificly Dodd-Frank and the repel of the Glass Steagal Act the exporting of our jobs with bad trade deals.
If you want to b!t*h about paying their fair share start with Obama's Job Czar Jeffery Immelt G.E. CEO
0 tax dollars and our jobs exported to CHINA.....or the 50% of all Americans who don't pay Taxes but live off of someone elses labor.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:43 AM
 
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I disagree slightly. To run out of ideas you actually need to have ideas first.


On the Failed Job Creation Front, Obama Has Completely Run Out of Ideas - Forbes
Having ideas and implementing them are two different things. I have a load of ideas, I just don't act on them (which in some cases is a good thing. ) All Obama has been doing for 3-1/2 years is repeating himself over and over telling the country what has to be done, but doing nothing about it.

Embedded in the link you provided was the Press Release from Obama on the American Jobs Act. Same rhetoric what he put in writing then, is the same thing he's repeating today.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...n-jobs-act.pdf

Now, if you have to repeat the same thing for over three years, it must mean one has run out of "ideas".
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:33 PM
 
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HC has alot to do with companies holding back because of the uncertainty in Obama's business climate which is a war on our coal and other means of energy production,life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Our condition was created by Congress-Clinton specificly Dodd-Frank and the repel of the Glass Steagal Act the exporting of our jobs with bad trade deals.
If you want to b!t*h about paying their fair share start with Obama's Job Czar Jeffery Immelt G.E. CEO
0 tax dollars and our jobs exported to CHINA.....or the 50% of all Americans who don't pay Taxes but live off of someone elses labor.
Tell me, have you ever researched those talking points or are you simply repeating what you heard?

Jobs get exported because it makes sense for business to export those jobs. We, as a country, have priced ourselves out of the manufacturing market because the marginal unit cost of producing here is too high. You can't simply legislate the return of jobs. Even if you tried, all you'd accomplish is higher prices for everyone.

Now, if you really want those manufacturing jobs, you'll need to accept the low wages, poor working conditions, and high pollution as found in mainland China.

Unfortunately for politicians, talking about creating good jobs is boring and complicated; it doesn't make for good sound bytes.

The "war on coal"? There's no such thing as clean coal. Sure, it's cheap, so long as you don't have to directly pay for emissions. Add in the pollution, and costs shoot up. Suddenly it's not so cheap.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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Tell me, have you ever researched those talking points or are you simply repeating what you heard?

Jobs get exported because it makes sense for business to export those jobs. We, as a country, have priced ourselves out of the manufacturing market because the marginal unit cost of producing here is too high. You can't simply legislate the return of jobs. Even if you tried, all you'd accomplish is higher prices for everyone.
true, you cant legislate more jobs. however you CAN change the business environment so that it makes sense for businesses to create jobs here.

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Now, if you really want those manufacturing jobs, you'll need to accept the low wages, poor working conditions, and high pollution as found in mainland China.
rubbish. we can have good high paying jobs here in this country, along with good working conditions, and low pollution as well. we just need to put the right regulations in place, ones that make sense across the board, and not the mismash of regulations we have now.

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The "war on coal"? There's no such thing as clean coal. Sure, it's cheap, so long as you don't have to directly pay for emissions. Add in the pollution, and costs shoot up. Suddenly it's not so cheap.
actually we can have clean coal. the bush administration put rules in place to clean up the emissions put out by coal fired power plants, including eliminating as much as possible the particulate emissions produced by burning coal, and the co2 emissions also produced by burning coal. and the fly ash can be used in a number of ways as well. the obama administration is waring on coal by putting such restrictive regulations in place that power plants and coal mines are having a hard time operating, and many have shut down, putting more people out of work.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:25 PM
 
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Tell me, have you ever researched those talking points or are you simply repeating what you heard?

Jobs get exported because it makes sense for business to export those jobs. We, as a country, have priced ourselves out of the manufacturing market because the marginal unit cost of producing here is too high. You can't simply legislate the return of jobs. Even if you tried, all you'd accomplish is higher prices for everyone.

Now, if you really want those manufacturing jobs, you'll need to accept the low wages, poor working conditions, and high pollution as found in mainland China.

Unfortunately for politicians, talking about creating good jobs is boring and complicated; it doesn't make for good sound bytes.

The "war on coal"? There's no such thing as clean coal. Sure, it's cheap, so long as you don't have to directly pay for emissions. Add in the pollution, and costs shoot up. Suddenly it's not so cheap.

Use talking points you hear much ... I worked raised a family because of coal and manufacturing which are good paying jobs you are so brainwashed and clueless...
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Old 08-29-2012, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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LOL! The Democrat's are an empty suit. Some guy in the elections forum was still "blamin Bush".

C'mon Dem's - where is that hope and change that your man Barack promised?

Mitt Romney will win the election because people are tired of the Obama recession.

It's the economy, stupid!
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