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Old 08-29-2012, 12:28 AM
 
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Many of us keep pets, or benefit from animal slavery - such as farm produce.

When we have an old dog that gets sick, many of us just take it to the vet to be 'put down'.

When we have a female dog that becomes inconvenient because she wants children, then we get her 'spayed' - ie: destroy her internal organs.

Imagine we did this with humans?

Isn't this what occurs though to many people around the world - ie: get sick and have no money - then you are just left to die.

Can't afford to keep the master happy - then it's off to the sweatshop or factory for slave wages (in the 3rd World at least)

yet many of us benefit from the cheap products whilst turning a blind eye.

wouldn't it just be simpler to reintroduce slavery?

and how about the dog that gets spayed? - in the human case, then the woman who wants inconvenient children will likely have her organs psychologically destroyed by societal consensus.

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Old 08-29-2012, 12:46 AM
 
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I agree with the spaying part whole heartedly. Most problems in society can be traced to poor people breeding. Eugenics is an idea whose time came, and never left.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:49 AM
 
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I wasn't exactly advocating spaying of humans (or dogs) here - just making a comparison.

but could it be done?
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:54 AM
 
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It has been done a lot, up until the 1970's in the United States. California in its heyday of eugenics was actually copied by nazi Germany.

the idea of neutering people for the betterment of society is nothing new.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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My cat considers me to be her slave.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:58 AM
 
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My cat considers me to be her slave.
Cat lady
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Cat lady
I'm not a female.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:12 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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I doubt very much that there is a single animal on my property, who if they could reason, would think they were a slave. LOL

And spaying and neutering is a routine practice around here for the dogs and cats and the boy baby goats get castrated, as well. All done with their health and happiness and well-being in mind. There are not enough loving homes for the dogs and cats that are born every year in this country, and responsible pet owner makes sure their own pets don't contribute to the overpopulation problem. Humans can make the same choice for themselves; it is up to humans to make that decision for their pets.

Euthanizing a dog (or cat or any other animal) when they are suffering due to old age or injury or illness is an act of love, kindness, and compassion. I believe in "death with dignity" for humans, too, and I am glad I live in a state where it is legal.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:31 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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I wasn't exactly advocating spaying of humans (or dogs) here - just making a comparison.

but could it be done?
China has been doing it for a while now with the one-child policy:

The one-child policy (simplified Chinese: 计划生育政策; traditional Chinese: 計劃生育政策; pinyin: jìhuà shēngyù zhèngcè; literally "policy of birth planning") is the one-child limitation in the population control policy of the People's Republic of China (PRC). The Chinese government refers to it under the official translation of family planning policy.

It officially restricts married, urban couples to having only one child, while allowing exemptions for several cases, including twins, rural couples, ethnic minorities, and parents without any siblings themselves.[2] A spokesperson of the Committee on the One-Child Policy has said that approximately 35.9% of China's population is currently subject to the one-child restriction.

The Special Administrative Regions of Hong Kong and Macau are completely exempt from the policy. Also exempt from this law are foreigners living in China.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:47 AM
 
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And spaying and neutering is a routine practice around here for the dogs and cats and the boy baby goats get castrated, as well. All done with their health and happiness and well-being in mind.
but how can castration be done with happiness and well-being in mind and

do you think a person would be happy to have this done to them?

how about the eunuchs in biblical times - were they castrated for their own joy or for that of their master's?
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