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Old 09-13-2012, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Yes, since it involves taxes used to pay for it, not your hard earned money.
It involves taxes to pay for mandatory drug tests, yes.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:22 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Laws that keep us safe from ourselves, are unconstitutional.
They go against everything freedom and our constitution stands for.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:24 PM
 
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Laws that keep us safe from ourselves, are unconstitutional.
True..... as much as we would like for people to have common sense, many don't and because people will do things anyways we can't protect them through laws and infringe on the responsible ones liberties
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:27 PM
 
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"I am sure that 80% of the city of Chicago who is either a crack addict or an Opiate addict will recieve fair treatment"

When you hate this many Americans, you don't love America.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:27 PM
 
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The Obama Administration through the Justice Department has given the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) the authority to “seize and administratively forfeit property involved in controlled-substance abuses.” In effect: those who are convicted of crimes involving alcohol and/or substance abusers will have their right to bear arms revoked.
Did you read the article and/or understand it? Because nowhere did it state that your right to bear arms would be impacted in these instances.

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If I'm supporting you, I own you until you get tired of it.
So the bank owns me because I pay a mortgage? Awright, debtor's prisons, here we come!
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:28 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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True..... as much as we would like for people to have common sense, many don't and because people will do things anyways we can't protect them through laws and infringe on the responsible ones liberties

How many people smoke pot or snort coke, even though it is illegal?

How many people own guns, that are convicted felons?

Kinda, ironic, isn't it!
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:30 PM
 
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"I am sure that 80% of the city of Chicago who is either a crack addict or an Opiate addict will recieve fair treatment"

When you hate this many Americans, you don't love America.
Nothing hateful there..... just semi honest critique..... I wish them the best..... that is love not hate
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:31 PM
 
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How many people smoke pot or snort coke, even though it is illegal?

How many people own guns, that are convicted felons?

Kinda, ironic, isn't it!
Exactly

The more laws there are of these kinds, the more they are pushed to the underground creating a black market..... nobody seems to remeber alcohol prohibition unfortunately
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:33 PM
 
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Seizure of assets without due process? hmmm too bad King George isn't around to witness America come full circle
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:41 PM
 
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So the bank owns me because I pay a mortgage? Awright, debtor's prisons, here we come!
I'm sure you're joking with that analogy, but in case you weren't....the difference is: You were lent the money to buy something of worth to the bank - your house. Not to mention the fact that at the time you signed the papers, I'm pretty certain you showed proof to the bank that you were capable, and were in fact supporting yourself.

Someone on welfare is NOT apparently capable of supporting themselves, at least at that moment in time, and therefore is procuring what amounts to a signature loan from the government....only this loan doesn't have to paid back. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to consider ensuring that this bounty...coming from taxpayer monies....isn't being pi$$ed away on a drug or alcohol habit.

Wouldn't you say?
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