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Old 09-15-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Wow we agree on something. Good post.
Well it's about time.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:53 AM
 
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Reagan would not have had the very incompetent Hillary Clinton for his Secretary of State and he would not have been apologizing or going after some silly movie maker.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:56 AM
 
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Reagan would not have had the very incompetent Hillary Clinton for his Secretary of State and he would not have been apologizing or going after some silly movie maker.
Just your opinion on Hillary Clinton; however the apologizing remark is simply not true. That has been debunked repeatedly but the lies continue.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Florida
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My point is for those to obtuse to divine it is that this is not the first embassy attack in our history and it certainly will not be the last. They did not call Reagan weak. The country came behind him and mourned. Now flash forward to today. Instead of getting behind the President and Chief, the Republican party and Romney are trying to tear him down and are blaming him for the attack.
Also, Reagan and Bush Sr both supported Carter's attempt to rescue the hostages in Iran, and they did not resort to political point scoring when the mission failed. They saw it as America's mission, not as Carter's mission. They were respectful of the WH and the sitting president. Times have changed.....The muslim radicals have not changed, but America has changed dramatically.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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Just your opinion on Hillary Clinton; however the apologizing remark is simply not true. That has been debunked repeatedly but the lies continue.
That's true. There was no apology. There is really nothing to apologize for. A radical Egyptian makes a movie in US, and somehow that is our fault?
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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Also, Reagan and Bush Sr both supported Carter's attempt to rescue the hostages in Iran, and they did not resort to political point scoring when the mission failed. They saw it as America's mission, not as Carter's mission. They were respectful of the WH and the sitting president. Times have changed.....The muslim radicals have not changed, but America has changed dramatically.
The political climate today is terrible and polarized. Romney has made some very disgusting remarks when he should be putting the country first. He has sunk to a new low, and desperate or not he should not make lies up to support his campaign while Americans are being buried.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:09 AM
 
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Still beating the same dead horse?
Still ignoring the fact that we occupy their holy lands and treat them like animals without property rights?

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Are today savage attacks by incited mobs a result of 1953 coup in Iran? Or British and French 19th century colonialism? Isn't it time to understand that these backward societies are what they are regardless of our presence? And even we bring back US troops from the middle east, Muslims will be Muslims? Obama withdrew US troops from Iraq last year, yet every day massacres and suicide bombings continue and became more frequent!
Al Qaeda didn't have a presense in Iraq until we overthrew their leader. They were afraid of Sadaam. That's another thing you don't know. Guess what, they are in Libya now. Strange how they seem to follow us around AS LONG AS WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

You have little knowledge of suicide bombers. Read Robert Pape, author of Dying to Win, the strategic logic of suicide terrorism, in order to better understand.
"Between 1982 and 1986, there were 41 suicide terrorist attacks in Lebanon. Once the U.S., the French, and Israel withdrew their forces from Lebanon, there were no more attacks. The reason the attacks stop, according to Pape, is that the Osama bin Ladens of the world no longer can inspire potential suicide terrorists despite their continued fanatical religious beliefs."

"Religious beliefs are less important than supposed. For instance, the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, a Marxist secular group, are the world's leader in suicide terrorism . The largest Islamic fundamentalist countries have not been responsible for any suicide terrorist attack. None have come from Iran or the Sudan. Until the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Iraq never had a suicide terrorist attack in all of its history. Between 1995 and 2004, the al-Qaeda years, two-thirds of all attacks came from countries where the U.S. had troops stationed. Iraq's suicide missions today are carried out by Iraqi Sunnis and Saudis. Recall, 15 of the 19 participants in the 9/11 attacks were Saudis."


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And the thousands of civilian dead in Syria (which don't infuriate Arabs or folks like you even a bit), is it because France occupied them in 1920?
They do the same in Pakistan, Nepal, Nigeria and Sudan. Will you ever be able to look at them not through your colored western liberal glasses?
LMAO I'm so conservative I sh*t small. I believe in a small federal government. Being the policemen around the world isn't a conservative ideology.
Liberal Not the first time Ive been called that by a neocon and probably wont be the last as uninformed as they are.

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To put things in perspective: Vietnam and Japan suffered terribly from the hand of US. Why doesn't Vietnam and Japan do the same as Arabs? If anyone is entitled, these two come first.
To put things into perspective are them "A-rabs" occupying and putting sanctions on those countries? Good to see you've came through by commenting on an entire group of people instead of taking in account the country.

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Even more crucial: would you agree to allow any of these countries develop nuclear weapons, just because we need to be fair?
Even more crucial: would you agree it is not our job to run other countries especially when we have so many problems here and our government does a horrific job running ours. Since when does any country have to ask our permission to run their own country? Course the only ones that get their citizens killed by us are the ones without nukes. Where were we when Russia was slaughtering their citizens? hint oil
Where were we when the atrocities in Africa were and still are occurring? hint oil

The only thing backwards is your one sided thought process. Real easy to forget the deaths of 1/2 million children if you have a short memory or no morals I guess.
"9/11 Never Forget" We can do it but other countries can't mentality???? But when your policies side with the ones wanting to run others lives and disregarding property rights, it's not surprising.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:09 AM
 
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The political climate today is terrible and polarized. Romney has made some very disgusting remarks when he should be putting the country first. He has sunk to a new low, and desperate or not he should not make lies up to support his campaign while Americans are being buried.
True, it was a new low indeed.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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Al Qaeda didn't have a presense in Iraq until we overthrew their leader. They were afraid of Sadaam. That's another thing you don't know. Guess what, they are in Libya now. Strange how they seem to follow us around AS LONG AS WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
They were always in Libya. Most of the Al Qaeda fighers in Iraq came from Saudi Arabia, and the second most came from Libya.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Reagan did not have 48 hours advanced warning.
And again, Reagan did nothing but cut and run.
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