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Old 09-20-2012, 09:08 PM
 
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If only slick willy had gotten osama in 1 of the 4 times he had him in his sights for kill or capture years ago non of this would be an issue from Al Qaeda now they were new and growing back then...


Amid frantic diplomatic efforts for a military intervention against armed Islamist groups in northern Mali, al Qaeda’s North African branch has threatened to kill French hostages it is holding in the region. The threat was made in a purported al-Qaeda statement published Wednesday on a regional news website.
Al Qaeda threatens to kill French hostages - MALI - FRANCE 24
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:14 PM
 
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More fallacy and over hyped untruths by the OP attempting to state that Clinton DID NOT take UBL when he had him in his "sights" in the late 90's.

AQNA wasn't even AQNA back in the 90's.
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:34 PM
 
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More fallacy and over hyped untruths by the OP attempting to state that Clinton DID NOT take UBL when he had him in his "sights" in the late 90's.

AQNA wasn't even AQNA back in the 90's.
Know of what you speak....


As Clinton guru Dick Morris relates, a first missed opportunity to capture or kill Osama bin Laden came in February 1998, when “Clinton’s aides scuttled a CIA plot that had been eight months in the planning to kidnap Osama.”
Another chance came on Aug. 20, 1998, in the famous “wag the dog” attack at the height of l’affaire Lewinsky, when cruise missiles were actually fired at a bin Laden encampment in Afghanistan.

NBC's Brian Williams Does Fawning Report On Bill Clinton And Barack Obama - Investors.com
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:42 PM
 
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Dick Morris didn't know of anything until it was discussed later, and as Michael Scheuer (THE HEAD OF ALEC STATION) has said while there was intel, there was no solid evidence it was actually UBL & that they could target OR kidnap him w/ anything other than a 40% confidence.

There was no "in the sights" intel or opportunity. The kidnap opportunity was scrapped b/c it depended on Afghan tribesman and locals who were mercenaries to kidnap and then transfer to a rival tribe who would then transfer to the CIA.
The attack on the VX/pharmacy plant was as you say an attack on UBL after the Khobar towers attacks.

Clinton then modified Executive Order 12333 in early 1998 to use deadly force on UBL & Al-Quida actors.

You know not of what you speak...but the truth is out there and many already know it. Your attempted obfuscation and revisionist history not withstanding.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:59 PM
 
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**** on Clinton. AQ sees the west as weak NOW especially based on the recent rioting and coddling by the admin to terrorists. Hell the leader of the Libyan "rebels" now turns out may be the guy who killed our ambassador and we sit here and do nothing while Obama plays around on letterman and rubs elbows with JayZ. Expect more to come for sure.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:05 PM
 
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**** on Clinton. AQ sees the west as weak NOW especially based on the recent rioting and coddling by the admin to terrorists. Hell the leader of the Libyan "rebels" now turns out may be the guy who killed our ambassador and we sit here and do nothing while Obama plays around on letterman and rubs elbows with JayZ. Expect more to come for sure.
Years of mental poisioning, multiculturalism, degradation of morals & values, a breakdown of the family unit, demonization of spirituality, welfare-state socialism, decadence, apathy, cultural relativism, and globalization are the causes of this weakness.

Our president is a jive talker that hangs out with rappers who speak of "slingin' dope", "slappin hoes", and "big pimpin".

We went from George Washington and Thomas Jefferson to George Bush and Barack Obama, and we wonder why America is declining on the world stage AS WE SPEAK.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:09 PM
 
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They either see Obama as weak or as their ally. Hell the guys we were funding, the "rebels" and giving NATO air support to go kill momar turn around and kill our ambassador and our government does nothing. There were hints and clues that these"rebels" were AQ back at the time but we were called fools or Obama haters or racists for bringing it up. Its just disgusting.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:23 PM
 
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They either see Obama as weak or as their ally. Hell the guys we were funding, the "rebels" and giving NATO air support to go kill momar turn around and kill our ambassador and our government does nothing. There were hints and clues that these"rebels" were AQ back at the time but we were called fools or Obama haters or racists for bringing it up. Its just disgusting.
It is a sad thing what our Gov is doing. The facts are our Gov is anti-American and it is showing with the stand down at the Embassys no bullets and all.

Now Al Qaeda will probably kill these hostages France won't send any military in because of the hostages isn't that a dumb reason what are they waiting for they have had those poor people since Sept 2010. What is our Gov doing for these people isn't France one of our allies?
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:48 PM
 
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They either see Obama as weak or as their ally. Hell the guys we were funding, the "rebels" and giving NATO air support to go kill momar turn around and kill our ambassador and our government does nothing. There were hints and clues that these"rebels" were AQ back at the time but we were called fools or Obama haters or racists for bringing it up. Its just disgusting.



Yes we were while the "rebels" & Obama's actions were defended here.
His "Congress be damned" approach now comes back to haunt us.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:01 AM
 
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we should try Clinton on criminal negligence for not acting on osama when he had the chance.

Lock up wet willy for all the crimes he could have prevented!
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