Why Republicans must begin to speak out. (unemployed, Reagan, Obama)

[roysoldboy]

We continually hear about the well know fact that the GOP wants to raise the taxes of the lower and middle classes so they can cut those of the wealthy. How much sense does that make to anyone not siding with the Democrat campaign? Most of those poor pay no income taxes so how do we raise theirs? There are enough middle class tax payers to keep the GOP from winning if they were getting raised on to pay the wealthy. No part of that argument by the left makes any sense but what Republican has spoken out in defense of themselves?

Many years ago the Democrats ceased upon the fact that deregulation had caused the economic problems with no proof of what they were saying. When regulatory agencies told banks to make bad loans for people to buy houses they couldn't afford was that deregulation? Yet the GOP seems to think that anybody can see that this has happened so they just let it ride and look where it got us. Now we are hearing from our President and his Secretary of State that a movie caused the murder of our people in Libya along with the ongoing riotous behavior of Muslims all over the world. Neither of them has even almost accepted the fact that what happened in Libya was the result of a planned uprising. We all know that people tend to attend protest demonstrations with RPGs and rifles, according to them, but that can't be true. Now later demonstrations have been caused by the way that group tends to react to signs of weakness and our two aforementioned "leaders" so when they wake up maybe we can hope for something better. Republicans like Peter King are speaking out but seem to be in a minority.

Can Republicans Talk? - Thomas Sowell - Page 1

[tluv00]

The reason they don't guarantee no tax hikes is because they can't. Anything can happen at any given time so guaranteeing it would be stupid.

No candidate gives details during the campaign because none of them have a clue about how they plan on changing things. I could say "I'm going to create 350k new jobs per month" but ask me how and I won't be able to give you an exact plan. Non one does.

[A Common Anomaly]

Originally Posted by roysoldboy

How much sense does that make to anyone not siding with the Democrat campaign? Most of those poor pay no income taxes so how do we raise theirs?

How do the 47% Vote?
How Do the 47% Vote? - NYTimes.com

Support for Republican candidates, who generally promise to cut government spending, has increased since 1980 in states where the federal government spends more than it collects. The greater the dependence, the greater the support for Republican candidates.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/us...pagewanted=all

Which party is partly responsible for exempting people from paying federal income taxes? The GOP. Reagan's 1986 tax reform bill exempted people with incomes below the poverty line from federal income tax. The Bush tax reforms of 2001 and 2003 exempted more people. Look at the spike in this Heritage Foundation graph after Republican tax reform was passed. Of course it spiked during the Obama administration since he inherited a severe recession with millions of unemployed people who found themselves out of a job.

[stillkit]

Originally Posted by roysoldboy

We continually hear about the well know fact that the GOP wants to raise the taxes of the lower and middle classes so they can cut those of the wealthy. How much sense does that make to anyone not siding with the Democrat campaign? Most of those poor pay no income taxes so how do we raise theirs? There are enough middle class tax payers to keep the GOP from winning if they were getting raised on to pay the wealthy. No part of that argument by the left makes any sense but what Republican has spoken out in defense of themselves?

Many years ago the Democrats ceased upon the fact that deregulation had caused the economic problems with no proof of what they were saying. When regulatory agencies told banks to make bad loans for people to buy houses they couldn't afford was that deregulation? Yet the GOP seems to think that anybody can see that this has happened so they just let it ride and look where it got us. Now we are hearing from our President and his Secretary of State that a movie caused the murder of our people in Libya along with the ongoing riotous behavior of Muslims all over the world. Neither of them has even almost accepted the fact that what happened in Libya was the result of a planned uprising. We all know that people tend to attend protest demonstrations with RPGs and rifles, according to them, but that can't be true. Now later demonstrations have been caused by the way that group tends to react to signs of weakness and our two aforementioned "leaders" so when they wake up maybe we can hope for something better. Republicans like Peter King are speaking out but seem to be in a minority.

Can Republicans Talk? - Thomas Sowell - Page 1

Republican's ARE speaking out....and their message is increasingly being ignored.

[roysoldboy]

Originally Posted by A Common Anomaly

How do the 47% Vote?
How Do the 47% Vote? - NYTimes.com

Support for Republican candidates, who generally promise to cut government spending, has increased since 1980 in states where the federal government spends more than it collects. The greater the dependence, the greater the support for Republican candidates.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/us...pagewanted=all

Which party is partly responsible for exempting people from paying federal income taxes? The GOP. Reagan's 1986 tax reform bill exempted people with incomes below the poverty line from federal income tax. The Bush tax reforms of 2001 and 2003 exempted more people. Look at the spike in this Heritage Foundation graph after Republican tax reform was passed. Of course it spiked during the Obama administration since he inherited a severe recession with millions of unemployed people who found themselves out of a job.

How will Obama blame Obama for what he inherits if he is re-elected? It looks to me like he will be in a heap of trouble if he wins and then has to blame himself for not improving a damned thing he inherited.

Did you read Sowell's piece that spoke about Republicans not speaking out and why they have to do so? I really wonder.

[roysoldboy]

Originally Posted by stillkit

Republican's ARE speaking out....and their message is increasingly being ignored.

How about telling me some of the speaking out they are doing that is being ignored. I guess you know something I don't. Also, Thomas Sowell knows a pile more than you do. Well maybe he doesn't but in case he doesn't he is turning out a lot of college students as blank as he is.

[stillkit]

Originally Posted by roysoldboy

How about telling me some of the speaking out they are doing that is being ignored. I guess you know something I don't. Also, Thomas Sowell knows a pile more than you do. Well maybe he doesn't but in case he doesn't he is turning out a lot of college students as blank as he is.

Two examples: Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan.

[MiamiRob]

Well the Republicans are "speaking out"! Unfortunately as of late it's against your own canidate Mitt Romney!

[le roi]

Originally Posted by roysoldboy

Many years ago the Democrats ceased upon the fact that deregulation had caused the economic problems with no proof of what they were saying.

Democrats still want to regulate finance and the environment, so that part isn't true.

When regulatory agencies told banks to make bad loans

Regulatory agencies never told banks to make bad loans.

The CRA program was the only "forced loan" program, and that program was tiny. And the loans didn't go bad any worse than other loans did.

for people to buy houses they couldn't afford was that deregulation?

Yes. Countrywide is a good example. No regulations forced Countrywide to make reckless loans. The regulations allowed them to make reckless loans without consequences for Countrywide -- it didn't force them to.

In all of this talk, "regulation" and "Deregulation" are really not adequate words to describe what happened. Even after the Republicans and Democrats "deregulated" our finance industry, the market was still heavily regulated in a way that gave banks a HUGE advantage over the rest of the population. All they did was "deregulate" the aspects of financial regulation that might make the banks accountable for taking big risks.

"Deregulation" is often used interchangably with, "Regulation that disproportionately benefits financial companies."

"Regulation" is often used interchangably with "Regulation that disproportionately harms financial companies."

We have never truly DEREGULATED finance.

Yet the GOP seems to think that anybody can see that this has happened

The GOP is repeating a lie, just like you. That's why y'all voted for Romney in the primaries. That's why y'all are going to lose this election to Obama.

Obama was vulnerable this election cycle, and the GOP totally failed to reform itself. Instead of looking inward and saying "Where did we screw up during the Bush administration?", they cranked up the propaganda machine to try and make it look like the mortgage crisis was caused by something, anything, vaguely related to the Democrats.

[skoro]

Originally Posted by roysoldboy

We continually hear about the well know fact that the GOP wants to raise the taxes of the lower and middle classes so they can cut those of the wealthy. How much sense does that make to anyone not siding with the Democrat campaign? Most of those poor pay no income taxes so how do we raise theirs? There are enough middle class tax payers to keep the GOP from winning if they were getting raised on to pay the wealthy. No part of that argument by the left makes any sense but what Republican has spoken out in defense of themselves?

Many years ago the Democrats ceased upon the fact that deregulation had caused the economic problems with no proof of what they were saying. When regulatory agencies told banks to make bad loans for people to buy houses they couldn't afford was that deregulation? Yet the GOP seems to think that anybody can see that this has happened so they just let it ride and look where it got us. Now we are hearing from our President and his Secretary of State that a movie caused the murder of our people in Libya along with the ongoing riotous behavior of Muslims all over the world. Neither of them has even almost accepted the fact that what happened in Libya was the result of a planned uprising. We all know that people tend to attend protest demonstrations with RPGs and rifles, according to them, but that can't be true. Now later demonstrations have been caused by the way that group tends to react to signs of weakness and our two aforementioned "leaders" so when they wake up maybe we can hope for something better. Republicans like Peter King are speaking out but seem to be in a minority.

Can Republicans Talk? - Thomas Sowell - Page 1

Poor Republicans...

Muzzled by the liberal media and unable to get their message out to the public.

Powerless!