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Old 10-03-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Not sure what on Earth makes you think that's the case. The richest states in the country are mostly liberal. The poorest are red dominated states. The most successful countries in the world are liberal. The poorest are Conservative.

Do you people seriously not notice that almost no where in the world does Conservatism actually work?

When are you going to learn that this red state blue state is a bunch of BS? You need to see the whole picture.

 
Old 10-03-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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Not sure what on Earth makes you think that's the case. The richest states in the country are mostly liberal. The poorest are red dominated states. The most successful countries in the world are liberal. The poorest are Conservative.

Do you people seriously not notice that almost no where in the world does Conservatism actually work?
Right, because China is the ideal model for civil liberties while Europe is doing just fine...
 
Old 10-03-2012, 03:47 PM
 
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Where would you get your money, since you wouldn't be able to suck off the federal teet (funded by liberals states) anymore?
We conservatives would have a currency backed by something other than the word of obama.
 
Old 10-03-2012, 03:51 PM
 
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It seems we are on the precipice of something profoundly significant. What that is, I don't know...

Has anyone else been feeling this lately? It just feels like everything is slowly unraveling.
Our country is slowly unraveling. I have never felt so much hatred and divisiveness on politics, religion, and many other issues in my entire life as I have in the past few years and I am a senior citizen.

I wouldn't want the U.S. to break up into several countries but if this divisiness continues maybe it woulnd't be such a bad idea. I know we all have had differing opinions since its founding but this outright hatred and insults to the side you don't agree with is truly troubling me. There are many examples of that in this forum. Is too much multi-culturism doing it? I don't know but "United we stand, divided we fall".

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Old 10-03-2012, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Right, because China is the ideal model for civil liberties while Europe is doing just fine...
Right, choose the extremes.

Germany
Sweden
Canada
New Zealand
Australia
Norway
Denmark
Holland
France
Switzerland
Great Britain
Finland

All are great countries and are all much more liberal than us.

On the right you have......???
 
Old 10-03-2012, 03:55 PM
 
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You would have to read a bit deeper into the articles I've posted. Who are those 38 million people that still live here?

Maybe things are better up in SF, but down here in LA things are quite awful. It's truly the most voluntarily segregated city in the country. Sad but true...
I live in So. Calif. so I can vouch for that. Not only LA but many So. Calif. cities are.
 
Old 10-03-2012, 03:56 PM
 
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Right, because China is the ideal model for civil liberties while Europe is doing just fine...
Much of Europe is doing quite fine. Sweden, Norway, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, the Netherlands, etc.
 
Old 10-03-2012, 04:21 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Not to mention Los Angeles County alone has a larger GDP than most countries in the world.
If the Bay Area were its own country, it would be as rich as Switzerland.
 
Old 10-03-2012, 08:31 PM
 
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Seriously?

Those "Blue" states still make most of the revenue and those "red" states still suck the country dry. Even by GDP. . .and the list is even better by capita (i.e. CT is VERY rich but small so its not on this list)

Even if all the TossUps went Red, you wouldn't equal the Blue states.

RealClearPolitics - Today 2012 map
GDP Blue Red TossUp
1 *California 1,936,400 - BLUE
2 *Texas 1,207,432 - RED
3 *New York 1,156,500 - BLUE
4 *Florida 754,000 - TOSS UP
5 *Illinois 644,200 - BLUE
6 *Penn 575,600 -BLUE
7 *New Jersey 497,000 - BLUE
8 *Ohio 483,400 -BLUE
9 *Virginia 427,700 -TOSSUP
10 *North C 407,400 -TOSS UP
BLUE 5,293,100 RED 1,207,432


California, on its own, is 13% of GDP . . .
California....bankrupt
New York....bankrupt
Illinois.....bankrupt


Next.....
 
Old 10-03-2012, 08:35 PM
 
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California....bankrupt
New York....bankrupt
Illinois.....bankrupt


Next.....
We're bankrupt? That's news to me.

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We conservatives would have a currency backed by something other than the word of obama.
Oh, geeze, you're gonna put Reagan on your dollar bill?
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