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Old 10-16-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: New York metropolitan area
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Depends on which culture and century you're referring. Historically, Christianity is the most violent religion in human history. Culturally, there are Christian dominate places in the world that are quite evil. Uganda being an example.
Totally wrong. Don't blame Christianity for what happened thousands years ago when there are barely any scientific and historical evidence.

What has Christianity done harmful in the west? Now, don't tell me what few individuals have done not in the name of Christ.

 
Old 10-16-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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Totally wrong. Don't blame Christianity for what happened thousands years ago when there are barely any scientific and historical evidence.

What has Christianity done harmful in the west? Now, don't tell me what few individuals have done not in the name of Christ.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Many Christians are still scientifically illiterate, and many still advocate evil in the name of God. There is nothing different about how Christians behaved in Medieval times, compared to how they do now except in the modern era, secularism has tamed Christianity's dark side and made the crazy side of it less destructive.

What has Christianity done in the west? Slavery, slaughter of the native Americans, witch trials, inquisitions, abortion clinic bombings, and if you accept his own personal admission and statements, Hitler's genocide of 11 million people under the Nazi Regime. Hitler I will agree was a sad excuse for a "Christian", but his statements to being Christian are no different than Pat Robertson's statements of being Christian. Both are/were crazy nutcases who abused the Bible and God's name to justify evil.

All these things have been done in the name of Christ because many religious people are ignorant, hateful, and evil and use God as justification for their actions based on a literal reading of the Bible. The Bible does condone slavery, it does demand the slaughter of the infidel, it does include God supposedly demanding the slaughter of men, women, and children.

You can claim they aren't behaving like Christ, but then that's the problem with Christianity. 2 billion Christians, 38,000 denominations, all claiming they are the only "True Christians".
 
Old 10-16-2012, 08:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Fiyero View Post
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Many Christians are still scientifically illiterate, and many still advocate evil in the name of God. There is nothing different about how Christians behaved in Medieval times, compared to how they do now except in the modern era, secularism has tamed Christianity's dark side and made the crazy side of it less destructive.

What has Christianity done in the west? Slavery, slaughter of the native Americans, witch trials, inquisitions, abortion clinic bombings, and if you accept his own personal admission and statements, Hitler's genocide of 11 million people under the Nazi Regime. Hitler I will agree was a sad excuse for a "Christian", but his statements to being Christian are no different than Pat Robertson's statements of being Christian. Both are/were crazy nutcases who abused the Bible and God's name to justify evil.

All these things have been done in the name of Christ because many religious people are ignorant, hateful, and evil and use God as justification for their actions based on a literal reading of the Bible. The Bible does condone slavery, it does demand the slaughter of the infidel, it does include God supposedly demanding the slaughter of men, women, and children.

You can claim they aren't behaving like Christ, but then that's the problem with Christianity. 2 billion Christians, 38,000 denominations, all claiming they are the only "True Christians".
You post so much nonsense that it even defeats the purpose to point them all out. You focus on all the negative aspects of Christianity (like any other civilization does not have any) while ignoring the fact that Christianity bore this country and most other liberal and democratic countries in the world. Just a conincidence? LOL

What did atheism created? Soviet Russia and North Korea? Great job!
 
Old 10-16-2012, 08:56 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Many Christians are still scientifically illiterate, and many still advocate evil in the name of God. There is nothing different about how Christians behaved in Medieval times, compared to how they do now except in the modern era, secularism has tamed Christianity's dark side and made the crazy side of it less destructive.

What has Christianity done in the west? Slavery, slaughter of the native Americans, witch trials, inquisitions, abortion clinic bombings, and if you accept his own personal admission and statements, Hitler's genocide of 11 million people under the Nazi Regime. Hitler I will agree was a sad excuse for a "Christian", but his statements to being Christian are no different than Pat Robertson's statements of being Christian. Both are/were crazy nutcases who abused the Bible and God's name to justify evil.

All these things have been done in the name of Christ because many religious people are ignorant, hateful, and evil and use God as justification for their actions based on a literal reading of the Bible. The Bible does condone slavery, it does demand the slaughter of the infidel, it does include God supposedly demanding the slaughter of men, women, and children.

You can claim they aren't behaving like Christ, but then that's the problem with Christianity. 2 billion Christians, 38,000 denominations, all claiming they are the only "True Christians".
Interesting and Obama claims to be a Christian, like Hitler claimed. Wow, just goes to show you, you can't believe any one any more on anything that comes out of their mouth.
 
Old 10-16-2012, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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What did atheism created? Soviet Russia and North Korea? Great job!
Liberals will likely point to Scandinavian countries as successful atheist countries but the jury is still out on them. In the 1920s we didn't know the atrocities that Stalin and the Soviet Union would commit against their own people. Plus, much of Europe was birthed in Christianity and has a Christian heritage as rich if not moreso than the United States, but has turned its back on that heritage. Time will tell what the consequences of that will be but if current trends persist, Europe could look like the Middle East by the end of the century.
 
Old 10-16-2012, 09:25 PM
 
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Liberals will likely point to Scandinavian countries as successful atheist countries but the jury is still out on them.
Scandinavian countries maybe full of atheists today however these countries were build on Christian values.
 
Old 10-17-2012, 03:57 PM
 
Location: New York metropolitan area
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Interesting and Obama claims to be a Christian, like Hitler claimed. Wow, just goes to show you, you can't believe any one any more on anything that comes out of their mouth.
Just because somebody claims to be Christian does not mean they really are. Most Christians act unbiblical and ungodly anyway.

Hitler was born as Christian (But was also half Jew); However later in life he rejected his faith and became an atheist when he got into power as a Nazi leader. Millions of Christians were killed during the holocaust.

Let's not forget about Stalin, Mao, Pot, Mussolini and Catro - all atheists, communist and evil leaders who killed hundreds of millions of Christians because they hated Christianity and religion.
 
Old 10-17-2012, 03:58 PM
 
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Scandinavian countries maybe full of atheists today however these countries were build on Christian values.
Most Scandinavians are cultural Christians, and not necessary atheists as many people in this nation would claim. Scandinavians still celebrate Christian holidays, many also baptize their kids, and may still be member of church despite not attending.
 
Old 10-17-2012, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Nobody is forcing any religion down in your or your daughters throats. If your daughter don't want to mention "Under God", nobody will force her. Although I feel sad for your daughter raising her without religion and belief in Jesus Christ.
No one needs or wants your pity.

I have a question for you: Is it ever ok, in your eyes to be non-Christian or non-religious? Or should everyone in the entire world believe exactly as you do?

Thankfully, the idea you proposed in the OP is not the case and the many non-Christians in the US can go on living happily as we choose.

YAY!!!!
 
Old 10-17-2012, 11:52 PM
 
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Legal adherence to any doctrine or ideology that defines a personal morality for the entire nation by law is evil. Christianity, Islam, atheism, etc.

What I cannot understand is WHY can't people leave their laws out of the personal lives of other people?
Christians feel called to enforce school prayer, laws against divorce and abortion (even though no law would stop the latter), gay marriage, certain types of music or movies, corrective surgeries, teaching of science in schools.
That's why people would feel threatened by Christianity as an official state religion. Stay the bleep out of the lives of other people!
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