Obama didn't join wright's church to follow jesus (interview, Barack Obama, school)

[All American NYC]

In “The Audacity of Hope,” on page 207, Obama reveals that a tipping point in his decision to join Trinity was his understanding that “faith doesn’t mean you don’t have doubts, or that you relinquish your hold on this world.......Throughout his work in the Developing Communities Project, Obama did not join a church. It was not until near the end of his time in Chicago that he joined Trinity, when he realized he needed more professional training to advance in Chicago politics and he decided to see if he could get into Harvard Law School......Wright proceeded to tell Klein that Trinity was an integral part of Barack Obama’s politics, because he “needed that black base.”

Okay where do I begin on this one?

[Fiyero]

It's quite ironic that you of all people are claiming others don't follow Jesus.

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

Okay where do I begin on this one?

Its a good thing you don't call self a Christian. You can begin with explaining why you don't.

[All American NYC]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

Its a good thing you don't call self a Christian. You can begin with explaining why you don't.

Why would that be?

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

Why would that be?

I thought it was pretty clear: What stops you from calling self a Christian?

[Tilt11]

You're right on this. Everything Barack Obama does is calculated. Everything is done and planned to further himself and his career. He doesnt care about anything or anyone than himself and he'll do and say anything to propel himself forward.

[DRob4JC]

From the archives (2004)...

Obama’s Fascinating Interview with Cathleen Falsani

The most detailed and fascinating explication of Barack Obama’s faith came in a 2004 interview he gave Chicago Sun Times columnist Cathleen Falsani when he was running for U.S. Senate in Illinois. The column she wrote about the interview has been quoted and misquoted many times over, but she’d never before published the full transcript in a major publication.

Obama's self description...

I am a Christian.

So, I have a deep faith. So I draw from the Christian faith.
On the other hand, I was born in Hawaii where obviously there are a lot of Eastern influences.
I lived in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, between the ages of six and 10.
My father was from Kenya, and although he was probably most accurately labeled an agnostic, his father was Muslim.
And I’d say, probably, intellectually I’ve drawn as much from Judaism as any other faith.

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So, I’m rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people. That there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and there’s an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived.

This is not the talk of someone who is a Christian. There are not many paths to the same place.

Trinity is mentioned in the interview.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

Okay where do I begin on this one?

With your lack of actually having a point?

[gvsteve]

Originally Posted by Tilt11

You're right on this. Everything Barack Obama does is calculated. Everything is done and planned to further himself and his career. He doesnt care about anything or anyone than himself and he'll do and say anything to propel himself forward.

Then it sounds like he's driven by a very conservative philosophy.

[All American NYC]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

I thought it was pretty clear: What stops you from calling self a Christian?

Nothing has stop me.