Why There Are No Jobs in America (unemployment, Congress, generation)

[Mikelee81]

Why There Are No Jobs In America - Chuck Missler - YouTube

America is largely a welfare, service-based economy. Many of the working age are receiving unemployment benefits. As the "baby boom" population enters into their Medicare/Social Security/Disability era, this adds to the burden. Most jobs are in the service industry which does not produce wealth for a nation. Government jobs only take money away from tax payers to pay tax payers which does not produce wealth but only come at a cost. So an increasing tax burden comes from increased government jobs.

The greatest issue is found in the video posted.

What do you see in these Presidential candidates that is being promised to solve these issues? What is there plan to correct it and why do you think they are correct?

[Roadking2003]

People who have not tried to run a business or have not been involved in costing and pricing products for a company have no idea how regulation is killing our country. It has become death by a thousand paper cuts.

[residinghere2007]

Ummmm, most Americans work so don't see how we are a "welfare state."

The only jobs I think any POTUS can create are government jobs, including beefing up military. But they can also invest in new technologies that can create jobs in the private sector, or construction. New technologies investment can also spur growth with defense contractors in using ways to make the military more efficient with their inventions. I saw one on a show my son likes that used a liquid magnet in the shocks/struts of Humvees in order to make them last longer and not cause soldiers to become fatigued on long, off road drives due to continuous, huge bumps/potholes. They were material engineers and had some other new materials that were primarily funded by defense spending. The inventions were pretty impressive and money well spent IMO to "create jobs."

[jwiley]

Originally Posted by Roadking2003

People who have not tried to run a business or have not been involved in costing and pricing products for a company have no idea how regulation is killing our country. It has become death by a thousand paper cuts.

Agreed between tax rates on having employees, and regulations, it is a wonder anybody opens a business in the US.

[GregW]

Our wealth production dies when we accepted, at the behest of the financiers, the Financial, Insurance and Real Estate (speculation) economy. None of these increase actual wealth but only move the wealth from the remaining producers to the manipulators. The financiers used Credit cards to steal, The insurance used health insurance to steal and the real estate speculators just stole wealth from nearly everybody. No wonder we have a stalled economy.

If we want a return of general prosperity we need to return to an investment, manufacturing and agricultural economy selling to, instead of buying from, the rest of the world. The first step is countervailing tariffs on manufactured imports followed by federalization of the electrical generation and transmission and universal health care for everyone. This will put more money in the hands of employed Americans and they will decide where to invest and how to save.

[dman72]

Originally Posted by residinghere2007

Ummmm, most Americans work so don't see how we are a "welfare state."

The only jobs I think any POTUS can create are government jobs, including beefing up military. But they can also invest in new technologies that can create jobs in the private sector, or construction. New technologies investment can also spur growth with defense contractors in using ways to make the military more efficient with their inventions. I saw one on a show my son likes that used a liquid magnet in the shocks/struts of Humvees in order to make them last longer and not cause soldiers to become fatigued on long, off road drives due to continuous, huge bumps/potholes. They were material engineers and had some other new materials that were primarily funded by defense spending. The inventions were pretty impressive and money well spent IMO to "create jobs."

Now if we'd just get out of the 1980's mindset where all innovation needs to be pushed through the military. Spend the same amount of money on new mass transit systems, more effecient energy plants and cars. Those things will pay us back over the long run in many ways, as opposed to putting all that cash into a new tank. Sure, they may discover something that crosses over into civilian life while developing the tank, but why not cut out the middle man?

What's funny is that people who scream about how bloated and wasteful government is look the other way at billions flushed down the toilet to defense contractors.

[dman72]

Originally Posted by GregW

Our wealth production dies when we accepted, at the behest of the financiers, the Financial, Insurance and Real Estate (speculation) economy. None of these increase actual wealth but only move the wealth from the remaining producers to the manipulators. The financiers used Credit cards to steal, The insurance used health insurance to steal and the real estate speculators just stole wealth from nearly everybody. No wonder we have a stalled economy.

If we want a return of general prosperity we need to return to an investment, manufacturing and agricultural economy selling to, instead of buying from, the rest of the world. The first step is countervailing tariffs on manufactured imports followed by federalization of the electrical generation and transmission and universal health care for everyone. This will put more money in the hands of employed Americans and they will decide where to invest and how to save.

I agree but there's little chance of any of that happening. Too easy to call it socialism and protectionism. I call it good policy that would benefit the most Americans, but that's just me.

[jmking]

Originally Posted by Roadking2003

People who have not tried to run a business or have not been involved in costing and pricing products for a company have no idea how regulation is killing our country. It has become death by a thousand paper cuts.

Heaven forbid outsourcing 22 million jobs certainly wouldn't have a damn thing to do with it. Regulation only exists because of the human need to screw as many people as possible in order to line their pockets and those of their families. Not an opinion but a fact of history reaching back thousands of years. I would agree that there are regulations that goes overboard, regulations used by federal employees to flex their power to stunt competition for one reason or another, but by and large most are necessary.

[va-jc]

Pretty simple and self explanatory. It has always been difficult to start and maintain a business so that will never change because that's what entrepreneurs do, they work around the difficulties.

There are JOBS and there are jobs. A lot of jobs today are relegated to doing the mindless tasks repeatedly without much thought process. Even a lot of the technology jobs are the same, everything is about data. Collect, manipulate, store, review, clean, delete data take up majority of the work while actual analysis of the data probably consist of less than 1% of actual work. This simply means that majority of these jobs are redundant and will eventually be replaced with low paying jobs.

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by Mikelee81

America is largely a welfare, service-based economy.

I am not sure what you mean by welfare based economy. After all, you’d generally have to look at third world nations and dictatorships where welfare takes the back seat. As for the economy being service based, that idea is nothing new either. The trend has been on for decades, and promoted since the 1980s, a reason we have seen manufacturing jobs disappear. In fact, since 1975, these are the only years when manufacturing employment has seen a rise over 12-month period (calendar year):
1976 (+516K)
1977 (+790K)
1978 (+795K)
1984 (+379K)
1987 (+325K)
1988 (+267K)
1993 (+63K)
1994 (+406K)
1996 (+92K)
1997 (+324K)
2010 (+169K)
2011 (+233K)
2012* (Partial year, +82K)

In other words, only a 12 out of 36 years have seen manufacturing jobs increase. Now let us go by change by decade:
1971-1980: +1.36 million
1981-1990: -1.31 million
1991-2000: -217k
2001-2010: -5.49 million

Many of the working age are receiving unemployment benefits. As the "baby boom" population enters into their Medicare/Social Security/Disability era, this adds to the burden.

You might recall that private sector dropped 8.8 million jobs in a period of only two years, beginning Jan 2008 and ending Jan 2010. You might have to go back to the Great Depression to find anything like it. And when you consider that, do you not consider the implications, and long term effects of it?

Government jobs only take money away from tax payers to pay tax payers which does not produce wealth but only come at a cost. So an increasing tax burden comes from increased government jobs.

Your money is going somewhere, regardless. A government employee losing the job is still another unemployed, and still another tax payer lost. You CANNOT eliminate government jobs and expect greatness. In fact, let us use facts, counting size of payroll, in private sector and government, over last thirty-two months that have seen a net increase in employment (February 2010 thru September 2012).
Change in Private Sector Jobs: +4.76 million
Change in Government Jobs: -0.47 million
Net Change in Jobs over last 32 months: +4.3 million

Remember, if 470K Americans weren’t put out of work in the name of cutting government jobs, the net change in jobs over the same period would be: 5.2 million instead of 4.3 million.

What do you see in these Presidential candidates that is being promised to solve these issues?

I see a President who has dealt with obstructionism, compromises made with the Congress (even his own party) and still help recover an economy that NOBODY guessed would drop nearly nine million jobs in two years, and be on the verge of another great depression. It is sad to see that people hate to recognize, much less dismiss, the fact that an economy that saw nearly 5 million fewer private sector jobs over a period of 109 months (down from 111.6 million to 106.8 million) has added just as many jobs in 32 months since. And we’re still questioning “promise”?

What is there plan to correct it and why do you think they are correct?

Both aren’t correct. Only one of them is, and he is supposed to get my vote this week. The other guy thinks and advertises that it is the policies over last four years under this President that we have so much pain still visible. Apparently, he was either unaware or agrees with policies that led to where we have been. But hey, there are just enough idiots who believe him (that includes bigots and hate filled individuals).