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Obama made the STUPID mistake of trying to blame the CIA for this mess and then all these leaked documents came out showing there was a denial to help Americans several times over seven hours.
I can only suggest that if you are going to be stupid, don't be stupid with people who have records on you. Obama blew it.
Here is the CIA said ON FOX. IF you want to believe lies...go ahead, but this is not from pretend "sources".
"We can say with confidence that the Agency reacted quickly to aid our colleagues during that terrible evening in Benghazi," [Youngblood] said. "Moreover, no one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. In fact, it is important to remember how many lives were saved by courageous Americans who put their own safety at risk that night-and that some of those selfless Americans gave their lives in the effort to rescue their comrades." [FoxNews.com, 10/26/12]
The problem is that the Obama admin has been holding back information, misleading the public and at times lying themselves. He can hide behind the rose garden speech all he likes. His comment about terrorism and terrorist attacks was a general statement. He with his admin blamed the movie not only here in America but around the world.
Do I think FOX is overstating the evidence? Absolutely. Just as I believe that our POTUS and his underlings have done their level best to deflect, to point fingers and to understate their own mismanagment of the situation.
Obama claims he gave the order to help. Really? Show the signed order. Who failed to obey the order of the Commander in Chief? I want to know before Nov 6th, I think most americans do.
The problem is that the Obama admin has been holding back information, misleading the public and at times lying themselves. He can hide behind the rose garden speech all he likes. His comment about terrorism and terrorist attacks was a general statement. He with his admin blamed the movie not only here in America but around the world.
Do I think FOX is overstating the evidence? Absolutely. Just as I believe that our POTUS and his underlings have done their level best to deflect, to point fingers and to understate their own mismanagment of the situation.
Obama claims he gave the order to help. Really? Show the signed order. Who failed to obey the order of the Commander in Chief? I want to know before Nov 6th, I think most americans do.
Overstating the evidence is a very kind phrase. They are manufacturing a story full of "sources", omissions, grieving relatives, mistatements and outright lies.
More of common lies that are told on Fox was that CIA operatives were told to stand down when they could have helped the Ambassador. This of course is not true as even Fox has reported that the CIA has denied that ever happened.
Fox has also been lieing about troops being Italy at the time of the attack, when in fact the troops did not get there until after the attack...another lie.
FOx has become the national enquirer. It is just another Murdoch Tabloid.
Anything from Media Matters is not to be trusted. We know that a C-130 was overhead. We know that someone gave an order to "stand down."
Media Matters is lying to you.
More of common lies that are told on Fox was that CIA operatives were told to stand down when they could have helped the Ambassador. This of course is not true as even Fox has reported that the CIA has denied that ever happened.
Fox has also been lieing about troops being Italy at the time of the attack, when in fact the troops did not get there until after the attack...another lie.
FOx has become the national enquirer. It is just another Murdoch Tabloid.
“Well, we are finding out exactly what happened,” the president again said. “I can tell you, as I’ve said over the last couple of months since this happened, the minute I found out what was happening, I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to."
The president said he gave a directive for everyone to do all they could to rescue those people, so why didn't anyone obey him? Who told everyone to stand down, and why didn't 0bama notice that no one was rescuing those people????
Anything from Media Matters is not to be trusted. We know that a C-130 was overhead. We know that someone gave an order to "stand down."
Media Matters is lying to you.
I think I have read just about everything in print on this subject.
Where did you find a C130 overhead? A rational source please not a right wing blog.
“Well, we are finding out exactly what happened,” the president again said. “I can tell you, as I’ve said over the last couple of months since this happened, the minute I found out what was happening, I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to."
The president said he gave a directive for everyone to do all they could to rescue those people, so why didn't anyone obey him? Who told everyone to stand down, and why didn't 0bama notice that no one was rescuing those people????
The back up party from Tripoli arrived in the middle of the night. They took a couple of casualties in the action...apparently the result of some very accurate mortar rounds early on in the second attack...but got everyone else out fine. While it would have been nice to have saved the ambassador that would have had to happen before the attack...I don't think even a President can order time travel.
Blackfive quotes a retired Delta operator as follows;
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Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from the report jumped out at me.
One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not "paint" a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.
Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.
If the AC130 never left Sigonella (as Penetta says) that means that the Predator that was filming the whole thing was armed.
If that SEAL was actively "painting" a target; something was on station to engage! And the decision to stand down goes directly to POTUS!
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