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Old 11-09-2012, 01:26 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Big drug money is totally out of hand on the Mexican/US border. The cartels are in total control of many key areas. Totally secure behind a wall of thugs packing major firepower. A higb percentage of the latter hopped up on readily had narcotics and otheer drugs. Part of their TO&E . An army that is fueled by big bucks and high quality drugs.
They are not going to be moved by anything short of an all out military assault using sea,air, and land assets that would make Afghanistan and Iraq look like playing paintball. Is this a look at our own future here in the US?
Huge, brutal gangs with hard loyalty to the cartels already control larve parts of many of our major cities. They are protected by the same firepower in use on the border ....and by our own Constitution. Tbe cops can't fight these armies, the Constitution hamstrings any thought of just going in and rooting out the infection.
So, are we doomed to just hand over control? This enemy cannot be beaten with arrests and prosecutions. That's the proverbial knife in a gunfight.
The situation will continue to degenerate if We the People don't get mad dog mean. We need to take these gangs (all oc them) head on and hard. Neighborhood militias, supported by our government, not prosecuted for fighting back. Stop disarming the decent folks in a limp weenie wipe attempt at legislating when and where the bad guys (who could care less what the law is) get violent.
If someone else can see a non violent solution to stopping tbe drug lords from taking over our communities, I would like to hear it.
Legalizing hard drugs wont help. Biggest reason for that is it just ain't gonna happen. From where I am sitting the only way to keep the cartels and gangs at bay is to crush them with superior firepower. I can't envision a non violent solution to the cartels. We have to hit them where they live with our full might, anx cut tbe street gangs supply of drugs and money off at the source. Sound extreme? Not from my house....
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Not if drug prohibition ceases, which has a much higher (no pun intended) proability of happening now.
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Decriminalize possession of drugs, keep the sale of hard drugs illegal, shoot every cartel gangbanger that crosses the border on sight. Problem solved.
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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Gang war on the border...are we looking at the future of our cities?

Who cares? That's a city, high population density, blue, non flyover, problem.

All them educated liberals ought to be able to figure it out.

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Old 11-09-2012, 01:33 PM
 
Location: DFW
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I thought there was already one going on in Chicago.

Seriously.
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Old 11-09-2012, 02:21 PM
 
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The cartels are doing exactly what they did back in their country. They are infiltrating police departments, they are putting their big money laundering businesses over here, they have their corrupt lawyers working over here.

The border regions are very very corrupt -- both sides of the border.
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Old 11-09-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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No.

Many cities are gentrifying with middle class citizens moving in.

Even in my home cities Atlanta and New Orleans...drugs arent the problem (especially in New Orleans the drug trade isn't the problem)
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:21 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I thought there was already one going on in Chicago.

Seriously.
So....we already have areas so under the control of gangs and or cartel allied gangs ala MS13, that even the Marines are afraid to go in? Are we looking at our future in Tiajuana? A seperate, feudal, subculture? Whats it going to take before we get fed up and start shooting back? Seems to me that our own government, remember them?, the all powerful protectors of the realm?, would ratber go after honest folks defending their communities than the thugs taking over.
The drug slingers who kill and maim, brutalize and intimidate, recruit children to mule and carry firepower that makes SWAT nervous, operate with impunity. The decent folks in these communities have to fear the thugs AND the police. If they don't defend themselves they lose their lifestyle and possibly their lives, if they do defend themselves, they get arrested and prosecuted.
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Not if drug prohibition ceases, which has a much higher (no pun intended) proability of happening now.
Meth is the new import now. Takes up less space and brings in more money.
80% of the meth in the US now comes from Mexico.
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