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Old 11-19-2012, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Nobody cares about Benghazi except a few deranged teabaggers who still think Obama's birth certificate is a forgery. This is as much a scandal as Whitewater or Clinton "selling nuke secrets to China!". While conspiracy theories are flying around in wingnut cyberspace and on Faux News, the rest of us are moving on.
Speaking of theories...

One couple donated $57 million to Romney's campaign and promised up to $100 million, if necessary. People with this kind of money could easily bankroll an attack on just about anything.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:31 PM
 
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You do know who turned down the State Department's request for budget to beef up security for overseas installations, right?
And how does that have any influence on what was protected and not? The State department could afford a $100,000 "going green" party in France but couldn't find the funds to or the manpower to send extra security in Benghazi?

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“The congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for,” said Biden in Thursday night’s debate, referencing Paul Ryan’s budget plan. “So much for the embassy security piece.”

But would more money have prevented the attacks?

Apparently not, at least according to one senior State Department official who would certainly seem to know.

In testimony Wednesday before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Charlene Lamb, a deputy assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security, was asked, “Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”

Lamb responded, “No, sir.”

Recall that Lamb is the person who denied requests from the top diplomatic security officer in Libya to retain a 16-man team of military personnel who had been protecting diplomats.
Are Budget Cuts to Blame for Benghazi Attack, as Biden Suggested? - The Daily Beast
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:32 PM
 
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We cannot say whether the administration was intentionally misleading the public. We cannot prove intent. There is also more information to come —

To answer your question....the idiots who keep suggesting anything contrary to the above rational statement by the source you listed!!!...LOL!!!
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But, at this point, we do know that Obama and others in the administration were quick to cite the anti-Muslim video as the underlying cause for the attack in Benghazi that killed four U.S. diplomats, including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens. And they were slow to acknowledge it was a premeditated terrorist attack, and they downplayed reports that it might have been.
And here's a timeline of the repeated lies on talkshows, Sunday news shows and UN speeches...

You people are fools...
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:41 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This is actually becoming a problem that is not going away. Specifically someone heavily edited the Benghazi talking points but the White House is now denying they did it. So the question remains, who 'specifically' issued the order to edit the CIA report that Susan Rice used on the talk shows?Say Anything White House Claims They Didn't Edit Benghazi Talking Points » Say Anything


This has Valerie Jarret's name all over it.

Cass Sunstein is still advising, too!

Never let a crisis go to waste!
They were going to use the crisis, to go after our first amendment!!
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:41 PM
 
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One other point. If the white house did not make the change, why aren't they looking for the person who did?



Likely would lead to those that say they don't know who changed them.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:43 PM
 
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No, it's pretty sad that the left wanted the truth regarding Iraq but don't give two slips about covert funding to militias to overthrow a government via the CIA and Blackwater.




How about that, no surprise though.

Last edited by bluesjuke; 11-19-2012 at 05:58 PM.. Reason: errant capital
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:46 PM
 
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And how does that have any influence on what was protected and not?
Probably nothing. But isn't it just a little - well, unprincipled - for the GOP to deny funding for extra overseas security and then throw an absolute tantrum over a perceived lack of security? Ignore the question, of course it is. Apparently, overseas security isn't really important - unless it can be used against the administration.

Seriously, look at this thread. Blackwater and gun-running and apparently gunships overhead - anything is being thrown at the wall in the desperate hope that something, anything will stick.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:47 PM
 
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HOw about that, no surprise though.
Libya was our baby. We installed that frizzy-haired dictator and when we didn't like him anymore we took him out and installed someone else.

You can rinse and repeat that for the last century in all of the "troubled" spots around the globe.

We're reaping what we've sewn and it is to every partisan's best interest if that doesn't come out and specifically if it just will go away.

The truth matters but apparently only when it's to your political advantage.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:49 PM
 
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Personally I don't care. If they were edited, I am sure there was a reason for it, but to me it really doesn't matter. I think the Congress need to go to work on the Fiscal Cliff and other higher priority issues.




Blind faith Baby!
"What happened doesn't matter, right or wrong is of no consequence, Obama knows best".


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Old 11-19-2012, 05:54 PM
 
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Probably nothing. But isn't it just a little - well, unprincipled - for the GOP to deny funding for extra overseas security and then throw an absolute tantrum over a perceived lack of security? Ignore the question, of course it is.
Depends, were we fu8nding lavish "green" parties and "state" type dinners while the State department was not funding security in well known security risk?

If you just overthrew a government covertly, wouldn't you think that would be where your focus would be, especially seeing as how they admitted they knew violence was escalating and an previous attack had already occurred?

Whatever, if this will just go away everything will get back to "normalization" snickers.

I snicker at normalization because that was the reasoning behind not giving the security to Benghazi. After all, wouldn't you want things to normalize after you just overthrew a government?

Well, that was the reasoning behind not appropriating funds for security to Benghazi.

You can freak out because there were budget cuts but it will be in vain and you'll see in the coming months and years that the Federal Government better specialize and focus because it frankly won't have the money to keep 275 facilities in 170 countries open otherwise.
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