I'm in favor of redistribution of wealth (compared, economic, money)
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I keep hearing liberals and other socialists say they want to "redistribute" the wealth in this country. But that implies that the wealth was "distributed" by someone to us all in the first place, and maybe that someone did a bad job and the liberals think they can do it better.
But wealth was never "distributed" to any of us, except maybe by welfare clerks to various indigent persons. But the $100 that's in my wallet now, wasn't distributed to me by anyone. A guy with a car and I made an agreement: I'd tune up his car and fix a few things on it, and he'd pay me $100 to do it. I tuned it up, changed the oil, and replaced two squeaking belts that were badly worn. He's happy, now it starts easier, gets better gas mileage, and doesn't make weird sounds as he drives. He'd much rather have a car that drives like this, than have the $100; and I'd much rather have the $100 and don't mind getting my hands dirty to do something I do well.
Nobody "distributed" anything to either one of us. He and I made a deal, both of us gave the other something of value, both of us are happy with the outcome.
But if Barack Obama had come along just then, he might have taken the guy's $100, and the guy couldn't have gotten me to fix his car. He'd still have a ****ty-running car that sometimes wouldn't start, I'd be $100 poorer... which means my son would be walking 3 miles to school instead of riding the bike I was about to fix up for him. Barack Obama wants me to think that a better use was made of that $100, than we would have made of it... but when we asked Barack Obama exactly what the money was used for, he couldn't answer the question.
People who talk about "redistributing" wealth, are lying. What they are doing, is taking something that was yours, that you earned, and telling you that (a) they know better how to use it than you do, and (b) this somehow makes it OK for them to take it from you, whether you like it or not.
These people aren't "redistributing" anything, because your money wasn't "distributed" to you in the first place. You EARNED it, and you got it because you DESERVED it, not because some uninvolved bureaucrat thought your having it would somehow be a good idea and so gave his blessing on you to receive it.
"Redistributing" is a politician's way of implying you did NOT earn your money, and so it's not really yours. And pretending that his deciding what to use your money for, is the natural order of things. Not the idea that since you earned it, YOU should decide what to use it for. He's trying to get you away from that idea.
Wealth is distributed by government through policy which allows some to accumulate wealth at the expense of others. By keeping me a rent slave, government distributed wealth to my landlord.
It's truly disgusting that you can have so many people who are so small, so incapable of putting themselves in another's shoes. They just think others should slave away to provide for them without expending any effort whatsoever to support themselves and/or live within their means. It's truly disgusting that so many small-minded people think they are entitled to STEAL the fruits of OTHERS' labors to enrich themselves so they don't have to work.
You'll just have to get used to being disgusted. The anarcho-capitalist sociopathic libertarianism you and others have been spouting in this thread has been and will be rejected by the majority of the American people, from the left and the right. You have no doctrine other than selfishness, no principle other than greed, nothing to offer but the atomization of civilization and the destruction of God. You are exposed.
What more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow citizens--a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities.
Question: Explain the part in bold. What is implied by "injuring one another".
It means NOT stealing from one another. STOP stealing money from workers and giving it to those who will not support themselves.
Know what kills me? I worked two jobs to get thru undergrad, then I worked THREE jobs to get thru grad school. I have worked since I was 15 years old. Currently, I work two jobs and I am over 50. Sooo....having worked like a dog, saved every penny I can, neglected to buy the trinkets that most people of my income have (new car, cable tv, I pad, Ipod, DVD, well, you name it)....people like Western Pilgrim think I still do not give enough. Do I feel sorry for the "less privileged"? Honestly, not a lot. I have worked so hard to get where I am, and I resent those who now point the finger at me and say "pay up".
Every bum thinks he is entitled to a handout. The attitudes of this generation is what swept the most incompetent, inept president in US history into office for a second term.
Obama's theme should be a variation of Kennedy's words , "Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you!".
You'll just have to get used to being disgusted. The anarcho-capitalist sociopathic libertarianism you and others have been spouting in this thread has been and will be rejected by the majority of the American people, from the left and the right.
You may think that sounds good ...all the way up to the point that we decide we will NOT be tax slaves any longer. We have enough. We'll stop working and will therefore no longer earn enough to be taxed. Then what? Who will you and your ilk steal money from then?
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You have no doctrine other than selfishness, no principle other than greed
Total BS. I'm not TAKING from others. Those who TAKE from others without earning it are the ones who are SELFISH and GREEDY. I earn what I get. I realize liberals HATE the concept of supporting themselves. But too damn bad.
"....since Obama took office in January 2009, wealthy Americans have continued to pull away from the rest of society. In the aftermath of the recession, income inequality in the U.S. reached a new high in 2011, Census Bureau data show...
"Even as the president has decried the hollowing out of the middle class, the fortunes of labor and capital have diverged on his watch. Quarterly corporate profits of $1.9 trillion have almost doubled since the end of 2008, while workers’ inflation- adjusted average hourly earnings have declined....
“At the very high end, people got a whole lot wealthier whereas income stagnated at other levels,” said Anne Mathias, director of Washington research for Guggenheim Securities LLC. “Fifty years ago, people talked about the other half, how the other half lived, and now we’re talking about the other 1 percent.”
Unfortunately the redistribution of wealth didn't just start with this president, the current situation started with changes to the tax system under Reagan and continued under the Clinton and Bush, the top brackets have done quite well, the middle class has not so much.
It's interesting that we never heard the words "redistribution of wealth" in the last 20 years until there was momentum to increase taxes on the earners at the top end. Did we ever hear complaints of redistribution that occurred in the 1980's, 90's, 2001, when the wealthy benefitted from the tax changes.
The clock doesn't start in 2012, changes in the tax structure have been going on since the 1700's. The wealthy are the last group that should be complaining, they have been the largest benficiaries in the last 20 years.
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