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Old 11-21-2012, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If it's bad news then it's Bush's fault.
If it's good news then it's Obama's credit.

Do we have 2 Presidents sitting in the Oval Office ?

When Obama took over he knew exactly what he was getting into and his empty promises didn't work.
The blame goes to the man at the head of the table folks. You don't get to pick and choose what he's responsible for and what he's not.

The transition between administrations happened in 2009. This is 2012.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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If it's bad news then it's Bush's fault.
If it's good news then it's Obama's credit.
The same can be said for your side, can it not? Especially where it comes to the military, where it then becomes "If it's bad news and a Democrat is in office, its their fault. If a Democrat is in office and its good news, only the military gets the credit."

Reverse the logic for any Republican presidents.

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Do we have 2 Presidents sitting in the Oval Office ?

When Obama took over he knew exactly what he was getting into and his empty promises didn't work.
The blame goes to the man at the head of the table folks. You don't get to pick and choose what he's responsible for and what he's not.

The transition between administrations happened in 2009. This is 2012.
Since Mr.XXX has refused to answer my questions, how would you like to take a shot at them? Again, simple yes or no answers will be just fine.

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Old 11-21-2012, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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If it's bad news then it's Bush's fault.
If it's good news then it's Obama's credit.
And to some, it can be nothing but Obama's fault because it is under this President's policies that the country's economy went down the drain.

They are utter idiots, aren't they?
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:52 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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I believe in work for welfare. Any problems for that?
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I believe in work for welfare. Any problems for that?
Yes. To list a few...
- an assumption that people on food stamps are lazy bums who don't work.
- an assumption that food stamps usage increased only because of Obama and since he took office when
- it went down during Carter years
- went up during Reagan's first term then down under secod
- went up during HW Bush's term
- went up during Clinton's first term then down before bottoming out in 2000
- went up through out W Bush's term, and quite dramatically
- has gone up during Obama's term (and should be expected since Food Stamps was a part of ARRA)

Part of it has to do with population increase, but most of it as to do with state of the economy that was terrible during Reagan's first term, HW Bush's term and throughout Bush's two terms and recovering slowly under Obama's first term.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Couple questions for you here, simple yes or no answers will suffice.

- Do you acknowledge that the recession began before Obama was elected?

- Do you acknowledge that the stimulus act and auto bailouts had a positive effect on the economy?

- Do you feel that John McCain, a man lacking economic knowledge (by his own admission) would have performed better than Obama on economic matters.

I'll be awaiting your answers.
The recession began after 9/11 but loose credit covered it up. Several "jobless recoveries" over the years proves that. But one can only take on so much debt each time and this last one was the bursting bubble as everyone was finally tapped out.

No, the stimulus ended up shoring up education and state budgets. Basically kicking the can down the road.

I don't vote D or R so I can't answer the last question.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The recession began after 9/11 but loose credit covered it up.
That recession began in Feb 2001 and ended in Nov 2001 (two months after 9/11). However, private sector job recovery did not begin until July 2003. It did feel like the recession lasted longer because of the pathetic state of job growth for nearly 30 months until credit bubble took care of that.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:03 AM
 
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Couple questions for you here, simple yes or no answers will suffice.

- Do you acknowledge that the recession began before Obama was elected?

- Do you acknowledge that the stimulus act and auto bailouts had a positive effect on the economy?

- Do you feel that John McCain, a man lacking economic knowledge (by his own admission) would have performed better than Obama on economic matters.

I'll be awaiting your answers.
So? Wasn't Obama the one who PROMISED he would change things? Create millions of new jobs?

Was he just lying so he would be elected?
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:09 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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I believe in work for welfare. Any problems for that?
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Yes. To list a few...
- an assumption that people on food stamps are lazy bums who don't work.
So what is this Obama supporters problem. She looks very well fed. She is certainly capable. She should work for her welfare. And you are saying she is not lazy and thinks she is entitled?

And yet you try to defend her types. FAIL!

WORK FOR WELFARE!

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Old 11-21-2012, 09:14 AM
 
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Hey... Everyone should be entitled to a free Obama phone....Oh...BTW..Don't worry about XMass...Obama Claus is Coming to town...

Obama's Economy "More Americans Will Use Food Stamps For Thanksgiving This Year"-obamaphone-lady.jpg
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