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80% of people under 30 support same sex marriage. Young Republicans are in general more open to the issue than older ones, even those who are religious.
It's going fine, had to get the ecomony moving first. Can't fix the mess that took eight years to create in 4 years 2 of which were with an obstructionist congress. Did you really cherrypick numbers to give republican congress credit when a democratic administration was in the white house and so on ignoring all kinds of details? Look, we're beyond that. The curtain has been pulled back and nobody is buying that poop anymore. Like I said earlier, you can keep telling yourself the same self serving lies and your presidential nominees will end up looking disheveled while pumping gas a week after the election.
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Good. And I will verify this in 2016 and if they have not, as you have stated, sufficiently evolved, I will vote accordingly.
[i.e. against them]
Exactly, and that's really the problem... not whether the GOP will ever "evolve" or not (and beyond just WA DC), but whether they'll continue to do it fast enough to keep up with progress (and with other changes within the culture)! Except as mattee01 already pointed out, most of 'em don't even believe in evolution to begin with, so they've still got a lo-o-ng way to go!
It's going fine, had to get the ecomony moving first. Can't fix the mess that took eight years to create in 4 years 2 of which were with an obstructionist congress. Did you really cherrypick numbers to give republican congress credit when a democratic administration was in the white house and so on ignoring all kinds of details? Look, we're beyond that. The curtain has been pulled back and nobody is buying that poop anymore. Like I said earlier, you can keep telling yourself the same self serving lies and your presidential nominees will end up looking disheveled while pumping gas a week after the election.
What a load!
"Going fine"?
By what objective standard is it going fine?
As for those "cherry picked numbers", sorry if the truth hurts, but the numbers are what they are.
Instead of trying to defend failure, why don't you get behind a proven winner?
I would love to have the economy we had in the late 1990s again or even the post 9/11 economy.
I made crazy money from 1995 to 1999 and again from 2002 to 2005.
I'd love to do that again, but the economy is getting worse, not better.
You should have just cited the freakonomics website as the palm beach post aka old republican rich people post is just piggybacking off of Dubners ideas. While I like some of the freakonomics contrarian points of view, the idea that the president and congress don't have any bearing on the economy is ridiculous and there are plenty of economists that would agree.
Darth Cheney hasn't said it was a misquote. I don't know and don't care who or what Paul O'Neil said in some book. Dubya and Cheney seem cool with it and let their deficit increasing policies prove as much.
But deficits were declining until Democrats took over Congress.
Pretty simple: GOP's views on social issues will evolve, they ARE evolving. Democrats' economic views will not evolve. Once we hit the magic 20 trillion mark, Dems will keep beating the "deficits don't matter" drum which will become as repulsive as the GOP's current stance on social issues.
I hope you're right, but given the religious nutters zeal that their moral system must be enshrined into law, and their failure to recognize that the culture war is over, and they have already lost, I'm not holding my breath.
I thought the white male vote was shrinking while the minority vote was rising, I have a feeling you will watch your party sink for a long time before they abandon their positions on social issues and adapt to the modern times.
"adapt to the modern times" = also hate heterosexual white males
I'm sorry but there is no way conservatives will accept same sex marriage. And I don't care how many sites you go on....it's a fact.
I can't say I entirely agree with you. "Conservatives" are not a monolithic block ... there are social conservatives like Rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee, and those people will never accept Marriage Equality. On the other hand there are fiscal conservatives and libertarians who are warming up to the idea of granting LGBT people recognition and respecting their relationships as none of their business.
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