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Old 11-30-2012, 03:14 PM
 
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No the 're not. Not even close. The hard working ones are but they have no clue how many of their wealthy sponsors are raping them.
When will Americans realize that it's the political class versus the regular folks? But you keep right on ignoring that fact that Dems are doing their share of raping, and defend them. It's called hypocrisy.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:14 PM
 
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Good. Stop responding. You haven't been able to refute what I say anyway. Goodbye.
You never made a point.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:15 PM
 
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When will Americans realize that it's the political class versus the regular folks? But you keep right on ignoring that fact that Dems are doing their share of raping, and defend them. It's called hypocrisy.
You are, IMHO, too kind, massively too kind.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:15 PM
 
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Here let me spoon feed you some information:

In 2010 student debt exceeded credit-card debt for the first time. In 2011 it surpassed auto loans. In March, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau announced that student debt had passed $1 trillion. It grew by $300 billion from the third quarter of 2008 even as other forms of debt shrank by $1.6 trillion, according to a separate tabulation by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

Student Loans: Debt for Life - Businessweek
Ignoring completely mortgages and business loans.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:15 PM
 
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Its worse that welfare. What part of the government makes them pay don't you understand?
The government doesn't make them pay. The government GIVES welfare recipients goods and services. Frequently in exchange for votes.



It will accelerate the economic decline.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:17 PM
 
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You're right. The poor actually end up with significantly more disposable income after getting all those freebie benefits because they pay very low taxes.

Poor people use the very same resources the rich do every time they drive a car, or ride a bus or bicycle to work (if they even do work), every time they go to the store to buy food, etc., etc.
Yup. That's why they can afford lottery tickets, to the tune of $1000. Most middle class families can't.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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When will Americans realize that it's the political class versus the regular folks? But you keep right on ignoring that fact that Dems are doing their share of raping, and defend them. It's called hypocrisy.
When have I defended them? I hate democrats, just not as much as republicans. What is to say about a welfare state? There is no economic argument for it. Social welfare I suppose but I leave that to the tender hearted of which I am most certainly not. I just have this thing about delusional fat slugs who think their greasy little hands and adding to their fat rolls is production. I also despise their uncultured ignorance. Democrats are just childlike follies of silliness. I find the typical conservative rentier repugnant like roach infestations and garage piles of stink.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:21 PM
 
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The concepts are over your head.

Name one. Which economic model do you follow. Where is it?
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:22 PM
 
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The government doesn't make them pay. The government GIVES welfare recipients goods and services. Frequently in exchange for votes.



It will accelerate the economic decline.
Yes I agree but what about the other people who make no product and obtain welfare in exchange for votes with government approved monopolies?
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:26 PM
 
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Name one. Which economic model do you follow. Where is it?
If our economy's problems were fixable by following a dress pattern economic model, don't you think we would have already done so? Think outside the box, man. Critical thinking is KEY.
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