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Old 11-26-2012, 10:22 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by Iamme73 View Post
It is amazing how conservatives come up with these angry posts about how unfair it is that the top 5% pays x% of the income taxes.

This is actually an indication of the huge income gains the top 5% have made relative to everyone else.

So this is why they pay so much because they make so much of the income.
Glad to hear you support a flat tax. Pay in exact proportion to what you earn.

The top 1% earns less than 17% of the income but pays more than 36% of the federal income tax. The share of the federal income tax they pay should be reduced to less than 17% to match their income.

The top 5% earns just about 32% of the income but pays almost 59% of the federal income tax. The share of the federal income tax they pay should be reduced to 32% to match their income.


Latest IRS Federal Individual Income Tax Data | Income Shares
Latest IRS Federal Individual Income Tax Data | Tax Shares
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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Glad to hear you support a flat tax. Pay in exact proportion to what you earn.

The top 1% earns less than 17% of the income but pays more than 36% of the federal income tax. The share of the federal income tax they pay should be reduced to less than 17% to match their income.

The top 5% earns just about 32% of the income but pays almost 59% of the federal income tax. The share of the federal income tax they pay should be reduced to 32% to match their income.


Latest IRS Federal Individual Income Tax Data | Income Shares
Latest IRS Federal Individual Income Tax Data | Tax Shares
I don't support a flat tax. I don't know how you divined that from what I posted, but you are very wrong.

I support a progressive tax. As has every president for the last 100years.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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Meaningless numbers without knowing what the top 5% made. i.e. If they made 90% of the $$$ and paid 40% of taxes it's ajust a bit different than if they made 30% of the $$$ and paid 40% of the taxes.
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The top 1% earns less than 17% of the income but pays more than 36% of the federal income tax. The share of the federal income tax they pay should be reduced to less than 17% to match their income.

The top 5% earns just about 32% of the income but pays almost 59% of the federal income tax. The share of the federal income tax they pay should be reduced to 32% to match their income.


Latest IRS Federal Individual Income Tax Data | Income Shares
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don't support a flat tax. I don't know how you divined that from what I posted, but you are very wrong.

I support a progressive tax. As has every president for the last 100years.
but a "progressive" tax is actually regressive

I thought liberals were about EQUALITY and anti-discimination


the FAIREST and most EQUAL would be a consumption tax...EVERYONE pays...the rich since they buy more, and bigger items would pay the most

think of the tax on that nice new Lexus the rich guy buys
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:39 AM
 
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I don't support a flat tax. I don't know how you divined that from what I posted, but you are very wrong.
No, I'm not.
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they pay so much because they make so much of the income.
That's the very definition of a flat tax.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Overwhelmingly, the oinstitution of Tax Credits, which apply directly to taxes owed, unlike deductions, which only deduct from the taxable income.
When did that come about?

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Happy to help wipe away at least a tiny bit of your Ignorance. Ask anytime, I'm here to help.
Don't worry about this perceived ignorance of mine, worry about yours.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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No, I'm not. That's the very definition of a flat tax.
Only if your idea of flat taxes is limited to that understanding.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:44 AM
 
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Only if your idea of flat taxes is limited to that understanding.
Since when does "so much" not equal "so much?"
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Glad to hear you support a flat tax. Pay in exact proportion to what you earn.

The top 1% earns less than 17% of the income but pays more than 36% of the federal income tax. The share of the federal income tax they pay should be reduced to less than 17% to match their income.

The top 5% earns just about 32% of the income but pays almost 59% of the federal income tax. The share of the federal income tax they pay should be reduced to 32% to match their income.


Latest IRS Federal Individual Income Tax Data | Income Shares
Latest IRS Federal Individual Income Tax Data | Tax Shares
So, if you reduce taxes on the top 1% from 36% to 17%, that means that taxes on the bottom earners would have to be raised astronomically to a point where they are paying more than their p% of income. Remember, 1% to someone earning $1 million per year is 20% to someone earning $50,000 per year.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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Taxation=Legalized THEFT by governments.
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