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Old 11-26-2012, 11:25 AM
 
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I just gave an example of how the working class benefits from those so-called "monopolies." Your point is moot.
Where? I am sure I mentioned my grandma somewhere too. Typical of the Hapsburg lip service and lazy leisure class.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:25 AM
 
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Yes it is hard and I read that you clearly haven't mastered it.
Apparently, not so much.

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Since the 1% pay about 36% of income taxes -- or about $1.1 trillion, lowering their taxes in half would mean that $550 billion in taxes would have to be spread out the bottom 99%. That means that their taxes would increase significantly.
You do realize that the bottom 99% actually earn most of the income, right?

That's why increasing income taxes on only the so-called "rich" will have such little impact. They earn only a small percentage of the income.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:26 AM
 
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Warren Buffett's $250,000 Difference Of Opinion With Obama
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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Apparently, not so much.

You do realize that the bottom 99% actually earn most of the income, right?

That's why increasing income taxes on only the so-called "rich" will have such little impact. They earn only a small percentage of the income.

That is because its a tax on labor and most wealth gained by the 1% is not by direct payment to labor.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:29 AM
 
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If the 1% gives up their government granted monopolies, we can talk about "flat taxes". As of now the government sends them money, let alone taking it away.
Any facts to back up this statement, or is it just psychobabble?
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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Look it up. Some of us are at work.


But this is a nice long list of resources and CBO stats for you in this article that will provide some NUANCE to your "tax policy" links:

Getting the Facts Straight on America's Tax Burden | The White House
That link does not contradict the info I posted.

Furthermore, it conflates federal income tax with payroll taxes. That's deceptively manipulative because:
1) There is no cap on the Medicare tax.
2) While there is a cap on the Social Security tax, there is also a cap on the benefits making Social Security a LOSING proposition for everyone in the middle class and above, with the most losses suffered by the highest income earners.
Social Security not a good deal for workers - Yahoo! News
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:31 AM
 
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Fixed.
So does that mean there won't be any EinsteinsGhost Jr.s
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:33 AM
 
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No, it doesn't, and the poster has already told you that.
The poster backtracked when info was posted that the top 5% pays WAY more than their fair share of the federal income tax, in direct contradiction to what the poster thought was true.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:34 AM
 
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Debtor financing buying big barns of housing isn't a protected class? If I pay cash, I am a blight on the society. However if I go into hock and get a nice big tax deduction I am a hero? That it?
That makes no sense. Not everyone finances purchases.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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Where?
Pension/retirement funds' holdings and investments. Or was that over your head?
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