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Really? How...by telling blacks they are being discriminated against..
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Well, first off, no: Obama did not make his platform on telling blacks that they've been discriminated against. The people who put this out on the forefront the most are people like you... for every
one black person I've heard complaining about discrimination or white people in my life, I've heard ten white people complaining that black people complain about discrimination. And I can say this with 100% honesty and truth as a white man who's lived in black neighborhoods and has many black friends.
And before you think that I'm some sort of slavering apologist... no, I'm quite proud of my Scandanavian heritage and my family's history of achievement and service to this country. I just don't need to denigrate a historically subjugated class as a core belief of my politics.
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single women? "war on women"
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Obama wasn't the one talking about "legitimate rape" or sayinging that rape could, in fact, be a gift from god; or at the very least, that any rape-derived pregnancy was his sacred will.
Maybe you don't find this offensive because you agree, in which case, all I can really say is that you have a very twisted and punitive sense of morality. Maybe you don't agree with these statements, but you shut them out because you just can't stand to hear "the liberals" be correct about something and "the conservatives" be wrong. Because that's what these attitudes are... wrong.
There was one of two major political parties in the US that wanted to have a litmus test as to what constituted actual, serious, for-reals "rape." It wasn't the democrats.
Oh, the humanity...
So, you think that it'd be better for even more poor people to procreate so that there are even more people who are less apt to vote republican? Well, thanks... I guess.
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hispanics - dream act for every one that makes it across the border...
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Totally wrong and you know it. "Every one that makes it across the border?" You know just as well as I that your statement is a loaded mouthful of hogwash. It applies to people who were brought to the US as minors, meaning that they likely had no say one way or the other as to whether they ended up here legally or not. However, since they
did grow up here, they grew up in America, likely bilingual, and with little exposure to life or society back in their home country. Witness cases of teenagers who get sent for deportation to a country that they haven't been in since they were 1 or 2, don't speak the language, and generally have nothing to do with... they didn't have a say in how they ended up here.
If they want to get an education so that they can become a productive, middle-class member of American society, I see absolutely
nothing wrong with this. You obviously do, and that's too bad but it's not my fault or problem.
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gays? he was against gay marriage before he was for it....
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He was always for it, he just knew that the time wasn't right to make it a big issue during his first campaign, considering that the country was still coming off of its socially-conservative moreality kick and that support of gays had been a major contributing factor to Kerry's loss of the election in '04.
Regardless, he came out in support of it and he lifted the ban on gays in the military - which hasn't adversely affected the military in any way, shape, or form, regardless of what republicans said.
Gays aren't getting any "special" treatment; they're getting their rights.
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poor? - free obama phones,
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Oh, come off it and stop relying on worthless and baseless chain emails and viral memes to shape your political opinions. There's no such thing as an "Obama phone."
Here's a Forbes article on the issue. You should read it:
Crazy For "Obama Phones" - But Are They For Real? - Forbes
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more food stamps, just sign right up...
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Lose your job after the economic crash that was a result of unregulated and unfettered free-market deregulation or keep working a thankless and stagnant low-paying job while CEO's and upper-level execs take more and more and more perks... yup, free food stamps... sounds fun and sexy and awesome, being flat-freakin' broke...
I guess I'll just quit my job and give up my cool pad in Beverly Hills so that I can get tons of cool, free stuff; after all, a lot of butthurt middle-to-high earners who support the GOP said that they were going to. I wonder how many have, and how many were talking out their butts?
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obama care? - not going to cover everyone that needs it, but what what the heck...
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It'll cover plenty of people, and it will make sweeping changes to the grossly-inflated, for-profit healthcare industry (and that's what it is, an industry) so that millions of people who had absolutely
zero chance of obtaining healthcare, can now obtain healthcare.
It also makes it so that healthcare companies can no longer break their contracts and just dump people because they're sick - which is
why you get health insurance in the first place. This is a very, very GOOD thing.
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Class warfare - make the rich the evil people that just won't pay their fair share..
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Who was up there saying that he didn't care about 47% of America to a room full of other rich guys?
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Yes...so proud of this guy....
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In a nutshell, the only party that's engaging in "class warfare" is the one that doesn't want to admit that the lower-class people in America exist, deserve a voice, can contribute anything to America, and deserve fair and just treatment. And that would be the republican party.
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