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Odds are, Ron Paul has been right at a 99% success rate.
Oh? You mean the guy that has been preaching for years that the Fed tripling the money supply was going to drive up interest rate, cause hyperinflation and devalue the dollar? That guy?
Perhaps nobody told him that the dollar is strong, inflation is about 2% and interest rates are at record lows.
The thing about ideologues is that they never question their ideology when the facts contradict the ideology.
He's a fool for saying Ron Paul has no influence? Why?
Last I checked, influential people get elected to a higher level.
Ron Paul hardly has much influence in the Lack Jackson, TX area, much less nationally.
If you don't understand then my explaining it to you is just a waste of my time.
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I hope you aren't comparing the idiots talking seccession these days to those people. That would be like comparing a Ford Pinto to a Ferrari.
How so?
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Remove the scales from my eyes. Tell me one significant accomplishment he can boast of in his 23 years as a member of the most powerful legislative body on the planet. Almost nothing he supported ever actually happened. Not term limits. Not a return to the gold standard. Not the prevention of reimplementation of draft registration. Of the 620 bills that Paul had sponsored through December 2011, over a period of more than 22 years in Congress, only one had been signed into law – a lifetime success rate of less than 0.3%. The sole measure authored by Paul that was ultimately enacted allowed for a federal customhouse to be sold to a local historic preservation society (H.R. 2121 in 2009).
So tell me again about my blindness and foolishness. I love the smell of irony in the morning.
Because he is the most conservative voice on the US Supreme Court and even he thinks you secessionists are nut burgers.
He started a movement for freedom and liberty,he has gotten young folks ( ya know the future of this country) to open their eyes and see the road we are walking down is leading no where but disaster and young folks are running for office and winning we are changing the way things work...maybe you don't see it because you are blind or just hate Dr Paul.
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This is what I don't get about Ron Paul. About 80% of people i know or meet that are of my generation (30's) describe themselves as some sort of libertarian, and are all for Ron Paul. It does not translate to any real support or nominations other than just noise.
We are getting people elected all over the place. Look up Ron Paul endorsed candidates or influenced candidates who have won office.
Oh? You mean the guy that has been preaching for years that the Fed tripling the money supply was going to drive up interest rate, cause hyperinflation and devalue the dollar? That guy?
Perhaps nobody told him that the dollar is strong, inflation is about 2% and interest rates are at record lows.
The thing about ideologues is that they never question their ideology when the facts contradict the ideology.
Tell me. Do you remember how much eggs were say 3 years ago? I do 99 cents a dozen. Now I pay almost 2$ for the same kind of eggs...the dollar is losing its value and everything else he said would happen is happening...maybe not fast enough for people to see it but it is happening.
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I prefer to say it, like I see it.
Hint: Declaration of Independence is as much a legal document to govern as is Articles of Confederation. To believe that both are that and that US Constitution is only an addition to it, is stupidity. That, if the other two cannot be considered a document to govern, neither should the US Constitution.
The declaration is not a document to govern, but a document to be not governed. It's truths are universal, self-evident, and applicable even today.
The declaration is not a document to govern, but a document to be not governed. It's truths are universal, self-evident, and applicable even today.
A far cry from...
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I'm not for secession, but the wording in our Declaration of Independence clearly state the right to do so is inherent to all people's. if this document has no legal standing, then neither does our constitution or any other laws, and our nation is illegitimate.
I'm not for secession, but the wording in our Declaration of Independence clearly state the right to do so is inherent to all people's. if this document has no legal standing, then neither does our constitution or any other laws, and our nation is illegitimate.
The Declaration of Independence is not a legal document. It has no authority over laws, or lawmakers and is not binding in any court.
The Constitution, is the supreme law of the land and is binding upon Congress, the President and the Courts and grants authority therein.
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I prefer to say it, like I see it.
Hint: Declaration of Independence is as much a legal document to govern as is Articles of Confederation. To believe that both are that and that US Constitution is only an addition to it, is stupidity. That, if the other two cannot be considered a document to govern, neither should the US Constitution.
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A far cry from...
Not at all. In order to be self governed, they first need to be not governed. The process would need to be repeated if deemed necessary. They followed a very logical and legal order.
Tell me. Do you remember how much eggs were say 3 years ago? I do 99 cents a dozen. Now I pay almost 2$ for the same kind of eggs...the dollar is losing its value and everything else he said would happen is happening...maybe not fast enough for people to see it but it is happening.
The price of one item is not what inflation makes. That is precisely why the CPI is a basket of goods weighted for the amount of each item accounts in a family budget. I doubt that I use more than $50 worth of eggs a year. It's effect on my family costs is negligible.
I am tired of people trying to prove inflation by honing in on one minor item that rose while ignoring all the other items that remained the same or dropped in price.
Not at all. In order to be self governed, they first need to be not governed. The process would need to be repeated if deemed necessary. They followed a very logical and legal order.
One more time: Declaration of Independence has as much significance as a legal document as Articles of Confederation does today. They served their purpose at the time and inspired framing of what DOES provide the legal framework: The Constitution of the USA.
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The Declaration of Independence is not a legal document. It has no authority over laws, or lawmakers and is not binding in any court.
The Constitution, is the supreme law of the land and is binding upon Congress, the President and the Courts and grants authority therein.
Our forefathers certainly felt the declaration had a legal precedent over The King's law citing a higher law than man's. you are correct that the law of the land is only the constitution. But our forefathers acknowledged a law of nature that was higher than man made laws when such time to part ways have been determined.
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