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If unions are so great, then why are they worried about the "Right to work" without joining the union?
Isn't everyone scrambling to join a union so they can give some of their pay to it?
Let me paint you a different picture.
I was station in Groton, Ct. My wife wanted a part time job, just to earn a bit of extra money, so she went to work for Caldors, a department store.
She started at just over minimum wage, 20 hours a week. HOWEVER, it was a "Closed Shop", so she was FORCED to join a union, she didn't want to join.
So, after taxes the union dues took almost 1/3rd of her check. Tell me again, why unions are so wonderful, that you have to be forced to join them. Shouldn't everyone WANT to join them?
If you don't WANT to join a union, it should be your call, not the Union's call.
BTW, My wife quit, she wanted no part of a union.
Sounds like BS to me. As A steelworker I paid $40 a month and that was the best $40 I ever spent. One third of your pay for union dues? Nonsense. That being said,why did your wife only want to be paid minimum wage?
If unions are so great, then why are they worried about the "Right to work" without joining the union?
Isn't everyone scrambling to join a union so they can give some of their pay to it?
Let me paint you a different picture.
I was station in Groton, Ct. My wife wanted a part time job, just to earn a bit of extra money, so she went to work for Caldors, a department store.
She started at just over minimum wage, 20 hours a week. HOWEVER, it was a "Closed Shop", so she was FORCED to join a union, she didn't want to join.
So, after taxes the union dues took almost 1/3rd of her check. Tell me again, why unions are so wonderful, that you have to be forced to join them. Shouldn't everyone WANT to join them?
If you don't WANT to join a union, it should be your call, not the Union's call.
BTW, My wife quit, she wanted no part of a union.
Your tiny little "personal anecdote" proves nothing. General history is much more important......but your wife did have an option and she used it, she wasn't forced into anything....
Wow, I have to tell you, this average American really got screwed by the UAW in the big union bailout. My GM bonds were toasted in the bankruptcy so that the UAW benefits trust could get about ten times what it was entitled to. This after decades of paying too much for automobiles because the UAW had obtained wages two or three times market value.
Union power has historically hurt everyone except its own members. When union wages go up, everybody else's costs go up. Not a thing wrong with paying market value for labor on mutually agreeable terms--like 93% of the private sector does it.
So you think driving down wages will lower costs? Whose? Middle class Americans will pay less for goods if their wages go down?
REALLY!???
Keep listening to the Righties, they're doing so well....
Unions no longer serve the purpose they once did. They do more harm than good to this country today. The cost, the benefits, the entitlements they pursue hurt this nation more and more.
Tell that to the families of the 29 miners killed at the Massey Energy mine in West Virginia. The miners had no way to address their safety concerns. Anyone who complained was fired.
Yup, and historically, when Union wages go up EVERYONE'S wages go up which is why Republicans want to destroy unions...unions give the average middle class American way too much power to earn a decent living. People who earn a good living aren't desperate and Republicans want Americans so desperate that they will accept any crapwages so all profits go to the top......which causes a really bad economy.
That's baloney and you know it. Unions force wages higher than their market value, which drives jobs elswhere (usually over seas).
People pushing buttons shouldn't be making $40/hr PLUS huge benefits. I've seen the GM plant here in operation. Those people hardly move!
Wages forced too high by union demands make US companies uncompetitive. They force consumer prices up as well.
Republicans like fair wages, not bloated wages. If you can't live on the wages you are paid, you need to improve your skills and seek a better job. Demanding more money for the same work (or less work, as is usually the case with unions) isn't even moral!
This Democrat meme that businesses are the enemy of the emplyee is a sickness. It is the clenched fisted employee, shaking that fist at the employer, who pays his wage, and gives him the job. Bite the hand that feeds!
I have in my entire life never had a problem getting a raise, because I have always worked hard, done my job to the best of my ability, and showed my boss that I deserved an increase. I have never been let down, and have always been promoted as I gained experience. I went from a technician on the bench, to field service tech, and then was promoted into the marketing department as a supervisor over the "order desk."
For those with no desire to work hard and advance, you will be stagnant, with stagnant wages. You don't deserve more "just because." You have to earn more.
Last edited by nononsenseguy; 12-08-2012 at 07:41 AM..
Tyranny is when you are coerced into doing something against your will. For example....how is the freedom? "You may work here, but ONLY if you join our group and pay us monthly."
Liberty is freedom of choice (you lefties are all about "choice" when it comes to killing babies, right?). You get hired and are asked "Would you like to join the group? If not, that's fine."
Yup, and historically, when Union wages go up EVERYONE'S wages go up which is why Republicans want to destroy unions...unions give the average middle class American way too much power to earn a decent living. People who earn a good living aren't desperate and Republicans want Americans so desperate that they will accept any crapwages so all profits go to the top......which causes a really bad economy.
The power to earn a decent living entails preaparing oneself with marketable skills so that you're not dependent on a bunch of thugs employing wolf pack tactics to threaten employers. I watched my town crumble when the unions threatened the mills to the point where the mills closed and moved operations elsewhere. Does anyone remember a bakery business called Hostess? Yeah, they're gone too thanks to the unions. It's unemployment which contributes to a bad economy.
Unions were needed at one time. That time has passed and it's now proper to place them in the dustbin of history.
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What garbage!
