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Old 12-17-2012, 10:55 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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According to Feinstein her bill would " ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession, not retroactively, but prospectively,"

Sounds like those who already have them get to keep them right? Question though. What happens when you go to give them to your family or kids as a inheritance?

According to this the way I can see into it, it could be twisted into meaning you cannot give your legal guns to your family, you could not pass them on to your future generation as the " transfer, and possession" would be prospectively.

Does this mean that your family would have to turn them in less they be prosecuted for illegally obtaining the firearm even though YOU legally purchased it before the ban?

That could wipe out ownership in one generation. Is that not a potential backdoor confiscation?
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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If that is how her bill is written, it will never even come close to passing.. Guaranteed..
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:11 PM
 
Location: WA
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According to Feinstein her bill would " ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession, not retroactively, but prospectively,"

Sounds like those who already have them get to keep them right? Question though. What happens when you go to give them to your family or kids as a inheritance?

According to this the way I can see into it, it could be twisted into meaning you cannot give your legal guns to your family, you could not pass them on to your future generation as the " transfer, and possession" would be prospectively.

Does this mean that your family would have to turn them in less they be prosecuted for illegally obtaining the firearm even though YOU legally purchased it before the ban?

That could wipe out ownership in one generation. Is that not a potential backdoor confiscation?
If Diane Feinstein has anything to do with it, then I'll assume that any firearm banned under a new AWB will not be transferrable via inheritance. I may be mistaken, but I actually believe that Canada doesn't allow the inheritance of certain types (or any type?) of firearm, so there are international examples of such provisions.

But who knows, with the anti-gun zealots on their predictable rampage (phony moral outrage and all), a renewal of the AWB, at least in its prior form, is less worrisome to me than other suggested means of gun control (basically, I'm more concerned that ammunition is going to be a prime target, with or without a new AWB).
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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If Diane Feinstein has anything to do with it, then I'll assume that any firearm banned under a new AWB will not be transferrable via inheritance. I may be mistaken, but I actually believe that Canada doesn't allow the inheritance of certain types (or any type?) of firearm, so there are international examples of such provisions.

But who knows, with the anti-gun zealots on their predictable rampage (phony moral outrage and all), a renewal of the AWB, at least in its prior form, is less worrisome to me than other suggested means of gun control (basically, I'm more concerned that ammunition is going to be a prime target, with or without a new AWB).
Don't worry.. It will just be a bit more expensive on the black market, along with the banned guns... It will still be accessible..
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:17 PM
 
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If Diane Feinstein has anything to do with it, then I'll assume that any firearm banned under a new AWB will not be transferrable via inheritance. I may be mistaken, but I actually believe that Canada doesn't allow the inheritance of certain types (or any type?) of firearm, so there are international examples of such provisions.

But who knows, with the anti-gun zealots on their predictable rampage (phony moral outrage and all), a renewal of the AWB, at least in its prior form, is less worrisome to me than other suggested means of gun control (basically, I'm more concerned that ammunition is going to be a prime target, with or without a new AWB).
But you can be guaranteed they won't mention ANYTHING about that. They will only repeat, we aren't taking what you have already away. Once again, sneaky wording that you have to look past the BS to see.

Any anti-gunners posting here want to respond to that?
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:22 PM
 
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I just checked Ruger's online site and all 20 and 30 round mags are sold out. This will be a bonanza for gun sales.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Clear Lake Area
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But who knows, with the anti-gun zealots on their predictable rampage (phony moral outrage and all)
I'm not going to classify myself as an anti-gun zealot, but I do support an AWB and ban of high cap mags... you can disagree with me all you want about that stance, but don't dare refer to my outrage in response to this tragedy as "phony". As the father of small children, the range of emotions I've gone through over the past few days is anything but phony. My outrage and repsonse has everything to do with never wanting something like this to happen again and has nothing to do with an attempt to capitilize on the extreme horror of what happened. Frankly, I'd appreciate an apology from you to all the people on here who, like me, are experiencing very real emotions.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:45 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Are these the politicians who also ban Drug possession, manufacturing and distribution ?

So.. how's that working out for everyone ? They're just making criminals out of law abiding citizens.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:55 PM
 
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Let's just restrict all males from owning, purchasing or having access to weapons. Only women should be allowed access to guns.

After all, these tragedies are not done by women. Just men.
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:59 AM
 
Location: WA
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I'm not going to classify myself as an anti-gun zealot, but I do support an AWB and ban of high cap mags... you can disagree with me all you want about that stance, but don't dare refer to my outrage in response to this tragedy as "phony". As the father of small children, the range of emotions I've gone through over the past few days is anything but phony. My outrage and repsonse has everything to do with never wanting something like this to happen again and has nothing to do with an attempt to capitilize on the extreme horror of what happened. Frankly, I'd appreciate an apology from you to all the people on here who, like me, are experiencing very real emotions.
Spare me--I don't owe you or anyone else an apology for simply recognizing the fact that this incident has been thoroughly politicized by die-hard ideologues since the very first reports. Politics first, as usual.

Shall I reiterate? I'm not sorry. Clear?

And guess what? You aren't the only father of young children around here, so I guess that you, likewise, shouldn't necessarily be challenging anyone else's motives for expressing their thoughts on this tragedy and its political fallout (which is, of course, the central issue here).
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