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Old 12-19-2012, 08:37 PM
 
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The government spent approximately $1.03 trillion on 83 means-tested federal welfare programs in fiscal year 2011 alone — a price tag that makes welfare that year the government’s largest expenditure, according to new data released by the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee.


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Old 12-19-2012, 08:40 PM
 
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The government spent approximately $1.03 trillion on 83 means-tested federal welfare programs in fiscal year 2011 alone — a price tag that makes welfare that year the government’s largest expenditure, according to new data released by the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee.


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Yeah try prying social security and medicare from elderly peoples' hands. Impossible. Even old people from red states want their SS.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Many of the programs in that budget are not welfare at all but actual entitlements. People paid into those programs all their working lives with the understanding that they would get something in return in their later years. These people are entitled to this. Now if you tally the programs in that budget that are actual monetary grants to people in need, then you find the figure is rather small in the overall scheme of things.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:16 PM
 
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I paid into Medicare and Social Security since I was 16, and now you are calling it an entitlement and welfare?

Do you also call my savings account, which I donate to with every paycheck, and entitlement because I expect the money I put in there plus interest back? I was forcibly required to put into Medicare/Social Security by the government for decades, and when I try and get that money back I am labeled immoral? How is that fair by anyone!?

I have other savings and investments, but I want the money I put into those government programs back. I didn't get an option to have that money removed, and I didn't have a choice in where it went, so I want what is expected back. If you want to take that money and not give even that money back then you are a sinful little &^%$# that should beg forgiveness for a lack of integrity.

I voted for the GOP for many years, and they expect loyalty now that they expect I give my hard earned money so that the wealthy can have more money in their pockets. The GOP has turned from the party of god and become the party of greedy immoral bastards. They can burn in hell for their immoral ways.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:36 PM
 
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For one, they could increase the number of years required to get social security and welfare -- 40 quarters is far too few because that is the equivalent of 10 years only. Most Americans work 40 to 50 years and there is no reason for those who worked 10, 11 years to get a nice big check for money they do not deserve.

Why cut only those who worked and paid in for 40 or more years? Why not cut those huge and growing able-bodied welfare class? Far to many young and able bodied find their way onto the welfare handouts, it only requires they start breeding.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:44 PM
 
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Yeah try prying social security and medicare from elderly peoples' hands. Impossible. Even old people from red states want their SS.
Has nothing to do with SS. Read the article.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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SS and medicare are NOT means tested.

TANF, Food stamps, WIC, medicaid ..those are means tested.
Social welfare for the poor, not SS and medicare for the retired
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:46 PM
 
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Is it me or did the article specifically say that the numbers EXLUDED social security or medicare?
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:49 PM
 
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Is it me or did the article specifically say that the numbers EXLUDED social security or medicare?
It's you.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:51 PM
 
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It's you.
Okay. Then what does this excerpt cut and pasted from the linked article mean to you.

The data excludes spending on Social Security, Medicare, means-tested health care for veterans without service-connected disabilities, and the means-tested veterans pension program.

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