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Old 12-20-2012, 11:57 PM
 
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Uninformed about the origins of the christmas tree that comes from Germany, and the the Pagan Saturnalia roots?
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Rural Northern California
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Uninformed about the origins of the christmas tree that comes from Germany, and the the Pagan Saturnalia roots?
I'm a Christian, and am personally not uniformed. Many of our holidays come from pagan rituals, and the need for the early Christian church to incorporate them into the church's religious festivals. Christ was actually born in the late springtime, but we celebrate his birth near the winter solstice because pagans already had a significant religious festival around that time. It doesn't bother me at all, as I am Christian of Northern European decent, so either way, I'm either honoring my religion or my ethnicity.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:56 AM
 
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seem kind of ironic to be celebrating the holiday of another religion though doesn't it?

basically it's Christo-Paganism - surely that goes against the teachings of the Bible?

as if scalping the Jewish Bible wasn't enough, (sarcasm)
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:05 AM
 
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Oh, I am quite informed. But, I am not worshipping a tree, or celebrating Saturnalia. I like to think we have redeemed the pagan holidays and infused Biblical meaning into them. I don't think in the grand scheme of things that God minds it that we take a day and reflect upon the incarnation of His Son. It has at least (commercialism aside) the potential to honor and point to Him, after all.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Uninformed about the origins of the christmas tree that comes from Germany, and the the Pagan Saturnalia roots?
Why does so many anti-Christian groups fight against putting up a Christmas trees? I am aware of the origin of the Christmas tree. Did you know that in this heavily Catholic area where I live that some families leave up the tree and redecorate it for Mardi Gras and Easter?
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:29 AM
 
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seem kind of ironic to be celebrating the holiday of another religion though doesn't it?

basically it's Christo-Paganism - surely that goes against the teachings of the Bible?

as if scalping the Jewish Bible wasn't enough, (sarcasm)
No, it doesn't seem ironic at all. It makes perfect sense. And it doesn't go against the teachings of the Bible. When the Romans became Christian they laid Christian trappings on existing holidays and traditions so as to make the transition to Christianity across a vast and varied empire easier. The Romans had a long history of incorporating regional religious beliefs as they expanded their empire. There's nothing sinister, mysterious, sacrilegious, or ironic about it. It is well documented history.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:47 AM
 
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why not just have your own holidays though?

It is clear to me that the Pagan Force is in the ascendancy - everyone busy celebrating Christmas for Christ, whilst what they are really doing is paying homage to the true Pagan Overlord.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:45 AM
 
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No, it doesn't seem ironic at all. It makes perfect sense. And it doesn't go against the teachings of the Bible. When the Romans became Christian they laid Christian trappings on existing holidays and traditions so as to make the transition to Christianity across a vast and varied empire easier. The Romans had a long history of incorporating regional religious beliefs as they expanded their empire. There's nothing sinister, mysterious, sacrilegious, or ironic about it. It is well documented history.
Can you explain what you mean by "expand their empire"?
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:17 AM
 
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Uninformed about the origins of the christmas tree that comes from Germany, and the the Pagan Saturnalia roots?
I suspect that many non-Christians, who are very aware of why Christmas is celebrated by Christians, are just as uninformed about the origins of the Christmas tree.

I mean, how many of those that celebrate Kwanzaa know about the rather unsavory hijinks of it's founder, Ron Kerenga?
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:00 AM
 
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Oh, I am quite informed. But, I am not worshipping a tree, or celebrating Saturnalia. I like to think we have redeemed the pagan holidays and infused Biblical meaning into them. I don't think in the grand scheme of things that God minds it that we take a day and reflect upon the incarnation of His Son. It has at least (commercialism aside) the potential to honor and point to Him, after all.
The ends justify the means... How could such a philosophy fail
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