Worlds view of guns in America. (legal, poll, Afghanistan, statistics)
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From a Canadian perspective i'll never understand Americas obsession with gun ownership and no matter how many tragedies occur the gun owners answer is more guns are needed and those that call for less guns are shouted down vehemently.
Obviously most people around the world saw the news of the recent school massacre in the USA,
What are your thoughts?
as far as freedom and rights go, there should never be compromising, so not sure what shocks you so much about the results of that thread.
Referring to the link in my topic Obviously i just dont get it when the majority of responders to a poll by a wide margin agree with this statement about owning guns.
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I would not give them up if it cost the lives of 1000 kids.
I'm from the UK, and I'm respectful of their constitutional right to bear arms.
I can understand their dilemma: Sociocultural values going down the pan, rendering an increasing proportion of the population unreliable with firearms; versus accruing evidence of an alarmingly malignant and corrupt government and financial system (which has ostensibly surpassed tin foil hat/"Alex Jones rant" territory).
Ironically, both arms of the dilemma share a common root in the abrogation of objective moral foundational values, in turn secondary to the unsubstantive a priori assumptions of progressivism. In other words, philosophical incompetence that has inseminated itself into the very cultural foundations of the USA, and the west as a whole.
Related to this is the fact that I've yet to hear a convincing, informed argument forwarded by gun control proponents that qualifies itself beyond a naively simplistic and epistemologically illiterate appeal to emotion.
I don't agree with the naive "polyanna" perspective that malignant authoritarianism can be sufficiently kept in check if the powers that be have an asymmetric advantage in firearms. An armed populace may come across as a barbaric and uncivilised idea (a point I fully understand, given that I'm from London), but from a comparative historical perspective, I consider this constitutional right for the US population more pertinent now than ever before in their history.
Last edited by Citizen401; 12-24-2012 at 03:08 AM..
I moved here to the US last year. People here in general are paranoid, I met some who own more than 5 guns! Statistics show that most of the crimes here was by legal weapons. in my opinion I'm against civilian carrying or owning weapons, anyone can get psychologically screwed and go crazy here!
How on earth can you make an argument 'for' guns!! Lets put it simply, the US has FAR FAR FAR FAR higher gun deaths than other industrialised countries that have stricter gun laws, whether it is accidental shootings or some idiot going on a killing rampage makes no difference - people (sometimes young children!) are dying in a FAR FAR FAR greater abundance in the US than elsewhere, if tighter gun laws means saving only ONE life then it has to be worth it doesnt it???????? It really is up to the people and government of the USA to decide of course, but I will say I am happy to see my daughter go off to school safe in the knowledge that she is FAR more likely to get home again without being shot to death!!!!!
n armed populace may come across as a barbaric and uncivilised idea (a point I fully understand, given that I'm from London), but from a comparative historical perspective, I consider this constitutional right for the US population more pertinent now than ever before in their history.
You think Americans will need all these guns to some how take out their government through presumably armed insurrection?I shudder to think of the chaotic carnage that would be a consequence.
My view : I wish I could own a "Bushmaster" ...one never knows what can happen nowadays , in ANY country of this planet!
and by the way : why people who are against the fact that private american citizens own firearms (not even semiautomatic, small handguns too!) often were in favor (or didn't say a word against) US military interventions in Serbia, Irak, or Afghanistan (and applaud to the sale of arms to Syrtian rebels) , don't question the fact that the US has over 700 military bases overseas. I don't understand their stream of thought : it's OK for America to police the whole world , but they shouldn't be allowed to defend themselves at home? talk of skewed priorities...
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