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Old 12-30-2012, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Assault Weapons - Issues - United States Senator Dianne Feinstein

The gun control matter has been talked to death, but I haven't seen much on a surprising provision of Dianne Feinstein's new version of the so-called "assault weapon ban." In the 1994 version of the law, all guns made before Clinton signed it were "grandfathered." Existing guns could be owned, sold, and traded just as prior to the law. The law only banned the manufacture of new guns.

The new version is much more restrictive. Current owners would be able to keep their guns, but could not sell, trade, or give them to anyone else. Presumably when the owner dies, they will have to be turned in and melted down, because any transfer would be flatly illegal.

But what I found most interesting is this (from Sen. Feinstiein's site):

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Originally Posted by DiFi


Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
  • Background check of owner and any transferee;
  • Type and serial number of the firearm;
  • Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
  • Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
  • Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.
So this is a MASSIVE new registration program. If you currently own a banned gun, presumably you would have to bring it in to your local police to have the serial number recorded and have your fingerprints taken.

 
Old 12-30-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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if they say so

Like ALL brain dead lefty rant, there is no way to enforce it, IF it should pass, which it won't.....

Feinstein needs to be arrested and tried for treason... She has violated the Oath to defend the CONS.
 
Old 12-30-2012, 11:41 AM
 
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Feinstein needs to be arrested and tried for treason... She has violated the Oath to defend the CONS.
Where in the constitution does it say that you cannot be fingerprinted in order to own guns?

Please post the exact passage.
 
Old 12-30-2012, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Where in the constitution does it say that you cannot be fingerprinted in order to own guns?

Please post the exact passage.
Please post the passage that allows the Federal government to do that. And don't cite the commerce clause as the Lopez decision likely took that off the table (that was a Federal law restricting guns within a certain distance of schools that was struck down). I think they would have to require the states to do it under their police powers, in exchange for Federal funds, similar to how they enacted the 55 mph speed limits.
 
Old 12-30-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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Where in the constitution does it say that you cannot be fingerprinted in order to own guns?

Please post the exact passage.
It doesn't, but nothing like that will pass, because for the average nit whit private citizen in order to get finger printed you need to be a suspect of a crime.

But to really answer your question specifically, it would come under Shall not be Infringed...

That crack ***** Feinstein needs to be arrested and tried for treason... She has violated the Oath to defend the CONS.

Now she has violated the LAW and her own oath. I want the state of California to arrest her for Treason.

I have already been finger printed for a couple of arrests that didn't pan out well for getting framed by the cops. That cop DA is now also serving time for 512 counts lumped into 4 felony charges as a child molester , again for a Mass carry permit, again to sell guns under a FFL dealer Lic, so I don't really care.


But if it were a new law i would simply choose to ignore it like i will any other new law. That is all illegal I am fear....

I will be demanding her arrest if she isn't very soon, along with anyone one else, like Biden the Villages Banger, Pelosi, Chucky Da boy Schumer, et al......


What you need to do is read the Declaration of Independence and the CONS are try really hard to understand what you are reading.

You just can't go around treating the Law Abiding like a bunch of criminals, because you say so, or because a crack ***** says so, or even because the ONE says so..
 
Old 12-30-2012, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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If the citizens of California won't do away with Feinstein then the states should do away with her vile acts.

Nullification: As American as Baseball and Crackerjacks. – Tenth Amendment Center Blog

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Nullification was first termed by Thomas Jefferson. It was in response to the Federal Alien and Sedition Acts. Jefferson called nullification the “rightful remedy” when the federal government acted beyond their constitutionally enumerated powers. James Madison also spoke of the States having the power to nullify unjust federal laws.

...the power of the states to nullify federal laws can also be found in the Constitution. By looking at the Tenth Amendment again, we see the right of states to nullify. As James Madison stated, “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite.” The power to nullify federal laws, are one of the “numerous and indefinite” powers of the State Madison was referring

While the “supremacy clause,” of the U.S. Constitution maintains that federal laws are “the supreme law of the land,” it is beside the point. The clause declares that laws made “in pursuance thereof” the constitution as supreme. Any unconstitutional law is not made “in pursuance thereof” and is therefore not the law of the land.
 
Old 12-30-2012, 12:30 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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...I want the state of California to arrest her for Treason...

What you want has no bearing. She hasn't committed treason.

You said yourself that this legislation is never going to pass. No sense getting your knickers in a twist over it.
 
Old 12-30-2012, 12:47 PM
 
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What you want has no bearing. She hasn't committed treason.

You said yourself that this legislation is never going to pass. No sense getting your knickers in a twist over it.
The second she hands over a Bill is the point where she has violated her oath, and as such has broken the law. The act should be considered a capitol offence an act of treason. Media has accordingly spelled out intent.

You don't have to rob a bank to be convicted of it when there is intent. She has years of evidence behind her, and is known as one of the filthy few.
 
Old 12-30-2012, 01:02 PM
 
Location: California
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Isn't this the same stuff she's been putting forward forever?
 
Old 12-30-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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another little note about her proposal--the criteria by which 'assault weapon' is defined is stricter in the new bill than in the 1994 bill. All the thousands of cosmetically-altered AR's, AK's, etc that were made and sold after 1994 would now fall under Feinstein's new definition of 'assault weapon.' (Incidentally the fact that she feels free to re-define it at the drop of a hat shows that it was a bogus term to begin with).

Anyway, all those people who bought AR's with no flash-hiders and pinned stocks, and "MAC-90s" with the bizarre looking thumbhole stocks, don't think you are off the hook. You too are in for a colonoscopy from DiFi.
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