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Old 12-31-2012, 08:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Bettafish View Post
Gay men are not good male models, and thus should not be fathers.
However, it is just a suggestion. It would be complicated to legalize it.
I know many gay men who are fantastic male role models.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:11 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Precisely my point - the natural way, that God intended. Animals don't mate then change their minds. We are supposed to be the wiser species.
How do you feel about heterosexuals who use surrogates or sperm donors? My Aunt and Uncle used a donor, since he is infertile... are their kids unnatural too, and if they were faced with this situation, would you still be calling it a "gay issue?" Your entire premise is flawed, admit it.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:15 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Not if Kansas does not recognize gay adoptions or marriages.

LGBT rights in Kansas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Then I guess this whole issue is a GREAT argument for legalizing gay marriage & adoptions.

The anti-gays can't have it both ways... either let them be legally-recognized families, or no whining allowed when things get complicated like this story.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:19 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Gay men are not good male models, and thus should not be fathers.
However, it is just a suggestion. It would be complicated to legalize it.
So, how many gay men do you know personally?

Or is that something you read somewhere - maybe on a catholic website?
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:21 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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So some guy at the bar can magically inseminate a woman without sperm?
That's almost biblical.


That poster didn't say SPERM wasn't needed, they said a (anonymous/non-intercourse) DONOR wasn't needed. Do you understand biology?
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:21 PM
 
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Then I guess this whole issue is a GREAT argument for legalizing gay marriage & adoptions.

The anti-gays can't have it both ways... either let them be legally-recognized families, or no whining allowed when things get complicated like this story.
Seriously.

They seem to be happy creating court ordered big government in order to avoid gay marriage.

I know I'm always happy to see court orders from DA's to garnish deadbeat dads. It's that law and order tendency in me.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:25 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Gay men are not good male models, and thus should not be fathers.
I know plenty of gay men who make "good male models" - actually that should read ROLE-models, since one only needs to be handsome to make a good model. Come to think of it, gay men are disproportionately (for unknown reasons) better looking than straight men... so they actually make good models more often than straight guys, LOL.

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However, it is just a suggestion. It would be complicated to legalize it.
I suggest all the heterosexual men who would (or already do) make terrible fathers shouldn't reproduce... but that is just a suggestion, as it would be be complicated to legalize it.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:26 PM
 
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The anti-gays can't have it both ways... either let them be legally-recognized families, or no whining allowed when things get complicated like this story.
But they want to whine. It's what they do best.

Well, that and take an inordinate amount of interest in gay sex. How many threads have the "But I'm a Straight Male Christian!" posters started on this topic? Where they manage to put "sperm" in the title. That's been interesting as well, lol.

Free the gay whales from the ultra-conservatives.
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:28 PM
 
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Question hmmm...

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Gay women can reproduce just fine without sperm donors. It's called a uterus and all women have them regardless of sexual orientation.

PLENTY of heterosexual fathers are deadbeats and do not support their children.

And no matter how you look at these people, if they were straight or gay, having 8 kids is irresponsible and selfish. If someone had 8 cats or 8 dogs, you'd call them an animal hoarder, so why is it acceptable to have litters of children who are most likely going to become tax burdens for all of us?

You anti-gay people really need to focus on something that actually matters. How many gay people do you know? How do these gay people have any effect on your daily life? Give me a break.
how do you figure?
K
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Old 12-31-2012, 08:29 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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how do you figure?
K
Being gay doesn't (necessarily) mean you're infertile... if all the reproductive technology disappeared tomorrow, gay people could still have children. And if you don't understand how, I would suggest reading a biology book or two.
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