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Who among all you experts have ever used an fully automatic weapon?
I own 1, I've only owned it for 2 years and I'm considering getting rid of it because of the outrageous cost of ownership and dealing with the NFA BS it takes to keep it legal. I carried one quite often in the military, fired it quite a bit as well.
Huh? Full Auto's are legal in a majority of states, but the feds make it prohibitively expensive to own one, not too mention the ridiculous amount of hurdles you have to jump through to purchase one.
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I own 1, I've only owned it for 2 years and I'm considering getting rid of it because of the outrageous cost of ownership and dealing with the NFA BS it takes to keep it legal. I carried one quite often in the military, fired it quite a bit as well.
I know they're technically legal but regulations have made them realistically illegal and/or unobtainable for most people. In my opinion the regulations are so ridiculous that they're banned from public ownership.
Do you have any idea how difficult and expensive it is to legally own automatic firearms in the United States? Because contrary to popular belief, it is indeed legal to own machine guns, short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, suppressors, and "destructive devices" (things that go boom, munitions that go boom, automatic shotguns, etc.
Under the National Firearms Act of 1934, for one to possess any of the aforementioned things, the item must be registered, the owner must (typically) have chief law enforcement officer's permission (chief of police, county sheriff, state police chief, state attorney general), fingerprints, photos, a full background check by the ATF (which takes 6+ months these days), pay $200 for a special tax stamp that needs to be in the vicinity of the item at all times, and that doesn't even guarantee ATF approval for you to own the device (they can turn you down even after you've already paid for the item, gotten approval from a chief law enforcement officer, been fingerprinted, photographed, sent the government a check, and waited 6+ months). These items generally cost anywhere from $1500 for a suppressor to well over $50,000 for machine guns.
If you have any more questions about this, feel free to ask... I will respond.
Go back to playing Call of Duty.
I'm glad it has a lengthy process to own these weapons, although I still don't want them in the hands of citizens. But from what I saw in the video, the people seemed like they were just having fun with them, not trying to harm anyone. I'm willing to compromise, these guys can keep their weapons solely because they aren't easily transportable so I doubt anyone would go on a rampage with them but you can't keep a AR-15, AK-47, etc because its easily transportable.
Trust me, I can understand the gun owners argument, its sort of the equivalent of us liberals Marijuana argument. Marijuana doesn't kill you, its from the earth, legalize it because it doesn't hurt, there fun ,blah blah blah, just as gun owners may say Guns don't kill you, its a right protected by the law of the land, take them from the bad guys, there fun, blah blah blah. So I understand and that's why I'm willing to compromise, not everyone who owns a gun is planning on going on a rampage. I just want to impose some limits on the fun, just as I would with marijuana. I don't want you or even myself having a AK, just as you may not want me smoking marijuana in public areas. So how can we compromise? You can own a gatling gun, and I can smoke at home in my own privacy. Compromise.
And yeah, I think I'll go back to Call of Duty when I actually feel good again.
I know they're technically legal but regulations have made them realistically illegal and/or unobtainable for most people. In my opinion the regulations are so ridiculous that they're banned from public ownership.
Banned yet you own one? Orwellian speak.
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Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow
I own 1, I've only owned it for 2 years and I'm considering getting rid of it because of the outrageous cost of ownership and dealing with the NFA BS it takes to keep it legal. I carried one quite often in the military, fired it quite a bit as well.
Who among all you experts have ever used an fully automatic weapon?
I have Greg, we were riding through the woods one day on our ATV's and came upon two guys shooting a 30 caliber machine gun mounted on pipe with a platform. We of course had to stop and watch the action...
The one guy asked if anyone wanted to shoot it, what kind of stupid question is that? LOL
They also had two fully auto M-16's set up with just .22's.
One of my neighbors has something automatic, I can here them shoot it every so often. Gun shots in this area are fairly common.
In my salad days, I certainly considered them good fun - of course, it was Her Danish Majesty's Army who paid for the ammo. Not a cost-effective way to pass the time otherwise, at least IMO.
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Ask anyone who's tried to purchase one and they'll explain to you that they're basically banned given the number of hurdles the average person has to get through to own one legally.
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M-2 forever
