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Old 01-08-2013, 06:33 AM
 
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Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.....the wretched refuse of your teeming shores.........seems as if that has already happened.

The problem with this is that when THAT happened, there was no social safety net. Sink or swim, 6 families in a tenement, can't find a job? Too bad. Go see the church for assistance. Or beg, borrow or steal.


These days, it's "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.... and then have 5 kids and send them to public school at a cost of 10k/student per year of tax payer money, get you some WIC and foodstamps...demand in-state tuition and subsidy of higher education... even though one of the requirements of legal immigrants is that they show they won't become wards of the state...."


We accepted the world's poor at the turn of the 20th century. We didn't then have a moral obligation to take care of them like we do now, and countless died and suffered from hunger and poverty that today's poor would last 2 minutes.

In the intervening years we have decided we want a base standard of living for people who live here.


We will NEVER end the cycle of child poverty so long as we continue to import the world's poorest people, and so long as people feel "entitled" to move here. Legal immigration is vital. Attracting the BEST and BRIGHTEST is vital.

Illegal immigration is a racket, paid for by you and me, to the benefit of business and the home countries of illegal immigrants, who get to push their undesired and restless to America to take care of.

The situation needs to be tackled head on at both heads of the snake: Business, and Illegal Immigrants themselves who need to follow the proper channels.
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:37 AM
 
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The problem with this is that when THAT happened, there was no social safety net. Sink or swim, 6 families in a tenement, can't find a job? Too bad. Go see the church for assistance. Or beg, borrow or steal.


These days, it's "give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.... and then have 5 kids and send them to public school at a cost of 10k/student per year of tax payer money, get you some WIC and foodstamps...demand in-state tuition and subsidy of higher education... even though one of the requirements of legal immigrants is that they show they won't become wards of the state...."


We accepted the world's poor at the turn of the 20th century. We didn't then have a moral obligation to take care of them like we do now, and countless died and suffered from hunger and poverty that today's poor would last 2 minutes.

In the intervening years we have decided we want a base standard of living for people who live here.


We will NEVER end the cycle of child poverty so long as we continue to import the world's poorest people, and so long as people feel "entitled" to move here. Legal immigration is vital. Attracting the BEST and BRIGHTEST is vital.

Illegal immigration is a racket, paid for by you and me, to the benefit of business and the home countries of illegal immigrants, who get to push their undesired and restless to America to take care of.

The situation needs to be tackled head on at both heads of the snake: Business, and Illegal Immigrants themselves who need to follow the proper channels.
Excellent post! The magnets that draw illegal immigrants here should be removed such as jobs, benefits and birthright citizenship and a zero tolerance of their presence here.
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:47 AM
 
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You want to play semantics, fine. It's not based on race but skin color. European Hispanics like Cubans and Argentines = cool, dark Hispanics like Mexicans or Domnicans = bad.

Happy?
Did I say that the "dark skin Hispanics" were bad? Sheesh!
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:24 AM
 
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Did I say that the "dark skin Hispanics" were bad? Sheesh!
No, you didn't. But a lot of people think that way.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:21 AM
 
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Did I say that the "dark skin Hispanics" were bad? Sheesh!
I really don't care how dark or light someone's skin color is but when an ethnic group puts their illegal brethern above our immigration laws and wants them rewarded for breaking them they are the racists, not the rest of us.
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