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Old 01-08-2013, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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I have a problem because the mayor did not display compassion for the man's situation and his motives seem to have possible corruption behind them.
The man fired made the decision to leave work. The mayor made the decision to fire and replace him to get the business up to par again. It's really simple and easy to understand...yet you can't seem to grasp it. I wonder why that is?

There is no corruption at play here. A business decision was made to improve the business - the fact that the mayor is a Democrat is irrelevant.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:32 PM
 
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FMLA covers 12 weeks. So you are suggesting that a position be held open for 19 months, that the employer continue to provide benefits including health insurance, etc. for the employee for 19 months. Is that your assertion?
OP obviously supports socialized medicine in some form. Does he think this is Sweden or some other commie hell hole?
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:35 PM
 
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FMLA = 12 weeks.

19 months out of work, still collecting benefits and not working is unreasonable.

The man chose to leave work to take care of his wife. Sometimes these decisions have to be made within a family.

There's "caring" about your employees, and then there's unreasonable expectations of an employee that an employer keep a job open for him that he isn't doing. The work needs to get done, and if not, the job isn't necessary in the first place.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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OP obviously supports socialized medicine in some form. Does he think this is Sweden or some other commie hell hole?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sick_leave#Sweden

Even Sweden doesn't give you 19 months of sick leave.

Harrier's proposal is to the left of Sweden .

Howdy Comrade.

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Sweden has paid sick leave The first sick day is usually not paid. After that day 80% of the income is paid for 364 days and 75% for a further maximum 550 days. A medical doctor must certify the illness no later than one week after the first sick day. A parent of a less than 12 year old sick child can get paid leave to care for the child (termed "temporary parental leave"). In that case the first day is also paid. The state pays all these benefits, except for the first two weeks of sick leave for employees, which is paid by the employer.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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I have a problem because the mayor did not display compassion for the man's situation and his motives seem to have possible corruption behind them.
Oh, we thought you had a problem with democrats, as for me, I'm so relieved now that you've explained your position more clearly now. You dislike uncompassionate mayors, whew.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:38 PM
 
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Oh, we thought you had a problem with democrats, as for me, I'm so relieved now that you've explained your position more clearly now. You dislike uncompassionate mayors, whew.
Not uncompassionate, unCommunist.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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Not the least bit surprised.Its all a show. All thats needed is how they handled and "used" the Sandy situation. A user is a user.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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Sick leave - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Even Sweden doesn't give you 19 months of sick leave.

Harrier's proposal is to the left of Sweden .

Howdy Comrade.
So OP is in a round about way saying that we need state funded family leave benefits more generous than Sweden's so this man could have personally care for his wife without getting fired?

Wow, Harrier just outed himself as the libiest lib to ever lib a lib around these parts!
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Oh, we thought you had a problem with democrats, as for me, I'm so relieved now that you've explained your position more clearly now. You dislike uncompassionate mayors, whew.
It shows the Union was useless, and didn't fight for this man. This case is exceptional. The mayor had discretion to show compasion and understanding, he demonstrated none of those with this decision. He could have filled the position temporarily, it's done all the time, but he chose not to. Especially when the employee is willing to forego his pay. Truly heartless and cruel.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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It shows the Union was useless, and didn't fight for this man. This case is exceptional. The mayor had discretion to show compasion and understanding, he demonstrated none of those with this decision. He could have filled the position temporarily, it's done all the time, but he chose not to. Especially when the employee is willing to forego his pay. Truly heartless and cruel.
Well said Comrade


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