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I remember some years back an org in the bay area was going to offer women with multiple kids, on public assistance, some with drug addictions, to have their tubes tied for a large sum of money. Of course that was shut down almost immediately in the ultra liberal bay area. I'm a liberal/progressive, but I don't think women should be allowed to pop out kid after kid on tax payer cost. Whether it's her welfare check or these kids in foster care, we all end up paying. The greatest cost is the toll these abused, poorly raised, unloved children will take on all of us in the future with crime and more irresponsible breeding.
I support what they are doing, matter of fact think it is a good idea, but I can see why it's controversial. People are making permanent, life altering decisions while they are not competent to make any kind of decision.
I remember some years back an org in the bay area was going to offer women with multiple kids, on public assistance, some with drug addictions, to have their tubes tied for a large sum of money. Of course that was shut down almost immediately in the ultra liberal bay area. I'm a liberal/progressive, but I don't think women should be allowed to pop out kid after kid on tax payer cost. Whether it's her welfare check or these kids in foster care, we all end up paying. The greatest cost is the toll these abused, poorly raised, unloved children will take on all of us in the future with crime and more irresponsible breeding.
I don't think the government has a right to control reproductive rights. Now that doesn't mean they have to encourage dysfunctional behavior, but forcing people to get sterilized is really really messed up on so many levels
Yeah, I wouldn't want women who are in the throws of their addiction to do this. Maybe a program that gets them clean then sterilizers them. It could be part of a program to help them get their kids back or in a better place to live.
I don't think the government has a right to control reproductive rights. Now that doesn't mean they have to encourage dysfunctional behavior, but forcing people to get sterilized is really really messed up on so many levels
It's not force it's giving them a incentive to stop having children they're not going to take care of. They wouldn't HAVE do it.
I don't think the government has a right to control reproductive rights. Now that doesn't mean they have to encourage dysfunctional behavior, but forcing people to get sterilized is really really messed up on so many levels
So you don't think popping out kids, having kids that they can't afford to take care of and because of the mothers (and fathers) irresponsibility these kids are born into poverty. You don't think that is messed up?
So you don't think popping out kids, having kids that they can't afford to take care of and because of the mothers (and fathers) irresponsibility these kids are born into poverty. You don't think that is messed up?
Of course it is... but even when we disagree with HOW people run their lives, we should still support their freedom TO run their lives. Basic American principle, or so I thought.
And yes, I realize this particular program isn't forcing anyone to do anything - just answering your question. I don't really have an opinion on the program, outside of agreeing that addicts shouldn't be making life-altering decisions. I've actually never even heard of this, and have lived in the Bay (on & off) for 30 years. Was it ever presented to the public? If not, who did you think had "shut it down?"
I support what they are doing, matter of fact think it is a good idea, but I can see why it's controversial. People are making permanent, life altering decisions while they are not competent to make any kind of decision.
Continuing to have unprotected sex while addicted also often leads to permanent, life altering consequences. There are types of tubal ligation that offer a higher rate of successful reversal surgery... if they change their mind down the road.
I don't think the government has a right to control reproductive rights. Now that doesn't mean they have to encourage dysfunctional behavior, but forcing people to get sterilized is really really messed up on so many levels
I don't like being forced to support their children - which would more than likely be from cradle to grave. Where's my choice?
I don't like being forced to support their children - which would more than likely be from cradle to grave. Where's my choice?
Your'e going to have to support their kids one way or another. That's why I support contraception and abortions. What I don't support is forced sterilizations, but it doesn't seem like this program supports that either, thank god.
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