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Like I said, I know it, I've seen it, I've lived in it. I know these people, hell, I'm RELATED to some of them.
I have known PLENTY of disadvantaged people (lower IQs, terrible childhoods, poverty, etc) who have made it off the government teat by their own hard work and perseverance.
I've never stated that some government assistance isn't necessary. Of course it is.
Kathryn, a toast to you. You've been there, done that and got out. Now that is something to be just as proud of as anything I can think of.
What you said before went right over their head. It is the attitude, it is the people who surround them, its the effort they are willing to put in to get out. If that isn't right then just like 4 years ago when Obama promised Hope and Change and they are no further ahead today, and so goeth 4 they years from now, still whining and complaining that they deserve more just because they exist.
Where is your evidence that "Handouts are more destructive to society than any good they do?" I can point to countless examples of people who grew up poor and would have stayed in that class, had it not been for subsidized nutrition programs and subsidized college education. Those people grew up to be productive members of society.
The idea that a poor child is better off without enough food, than being fed through SNAP, has no logical foundation. The same goes for publicly provided immunizations.
Conservatives perpetuate the self-serving myth that helping people doesn't really help them but the evidence is scant to support that view.
So. You are living in a cardboard box underneath a freeway overpass and giving every single dollar of your extra money to charity? Every dime? No you aren't and you wouldn't either. Its easy to give away OTHER people's money. If YOU want such great socialism in this country, then get YOU and your ilk to pay for it. I prefer not too.
You can call me selfish, stingy, and every thing else in the world. I am black man, who grew up in all of this growing socialism and yes, its done more harm then good. You can say many people have been helped. Yes, and MANY MORE HAVE NOT. The poverty scales in this country haven't gotten better, they have gotten worse. And like it or not, the liberal mentality is part and parcel of the reason.
I am judging? Never said I wasn't. If you don't like being judged then stop taking from others. Stop taking something that is provided by someone else's hard labor.
Mostly judging because a girl or woman and man who don't think about the children they bring into the world and the life they provide. I hope to hell they don't view the kids as the ticket to the free ride.
You're responding to my post to KathrynAragon. SHE claimed to not be judging but just observing. Of course you are judging, there's no doubt about that.
You said if I don't like being judged then stop taking from others. I'm not taking anything from others. Where did you get that idea? I'm not on public assistance. Also, just FTR, I'm not black. I'm not a minority. Yes, I'm a member of that "white ruling class" in this country; you know, the one that's losing its power now.
I don't have any children and do not plan on ever having any children. So, no, I don't have any children on public assistance either. However, amazingly, I'm able to see how hard life is for many people now, and I do not begrudge anyone for needing help via our public assistance programs.
Btw, tell us about YOUR HARD LABOR. How hard to you labor every day for a meal? I'm sure that typing must get tiring, especially if you only use two fingers.
Unsurprisingly you don't have a clue about Section 8 housing, or those who qualify for vouchers.
And what about free or discounted shelter would you like to teach MR Parfleche who lives in a 107 year old home and works hard made over 20 grand only twice in 43 years of working hard,put 2 daughters through college as a single parent and never went on the dole for a single dime ever. that I owe these leeches something? you take em in
When they are able to work and refuse to and then get all fat plus live off my money then we have a right to say what should be allowed. Only healthy foods, no junk food and certainly no steaks. If you want that kind of thing then get a job. Didn't the Chinese live on rice? Maybe then they would do anything to get a job so they can eat the good stuff. Now there is an idea (again, obamaphone lady types is who I am talking about.
Well poor people had no problem voting for the man they believed would take from hard working Americans didn't they. they jumped right on that tax the rich bandwagon too. So Yes, when they got their hand in my pocket I will criticize them but they deserve no better than to be criticized and judged for who they are.
Now they are complaining because they are not living the life of luxury. Welfare is supposed to be for survival only. it is not supposed to be for hanging out at the bar, paying for hookers or lap dances either.
You think Section 8 housing is the "life of luxury"? dear god!
Some people are just ignorant rednecks who think they're above everyone else because they had to work hard, I guess doing physical labor, to provide for themselves, and are angry about that, and now want to take it out on somebody else, anybody else, and who is there for them to control now? Why of course people who are struggling and living in poverty.
You know, YOU have yet to post any proof at all that ALL or even the majority of people on food stamps are able to work, refuse to get a job, and are cheating the system. Give us some numbers to work with here. HOW MANY PEOPLE are cheating the system? When you find that out, you will have a place to start.
Poor people voted for Obama, you say. Okay. Why not? I'm guessing you voted for Romney, AGAINST your own best interest, because I'm sure you're not one of the 1%ers. I'd say the poor people are much, much smarter than you.
What happened to "if not for the grace of God, there go I"?
Yea, too bad people don't look at the so called small business people making $200k (you know the people who Obama calls millionaires and billionaires) and say "if not for the grace of God, there go I" but instead they just attack these hard working Americans and jump on Obama's "tax the rich" bandwagon.
You have done plenty of judging and attacking so don't act like you are innocent.
I don't "teach" to the unteachable, I don't have the patients.
But thank you for confirming my previous statement, Section 8 housing is neither free, nor discounted just for starters.
Thankyou for proving you know nothing about section 8 housing. I used to own a rental home and know a lot
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dear god!
