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What's done is done. This country is more divisive than ever, IMO. You can accept it or not. It is.
LOL at this as well. This country is much less divisive today than it ever was before. My grandmother, in the 1950s/60s was not allowed to live in certain neighborhoods or she could have been killed. My grandfather couldn't work certain places, their kids couldn't go to certain schools. There were actual laws on the books that legalized divisiveness, separation, and racism.
As a new immigrant to this country, you should learn about the story of our great nation and realize we are much greater today and more unified today than we have ever been. I know people like you may want to blame the president for your own prejudices, but you should accept that you and others like you have always had those prejudices. Luckily most of our newer white residents, descendants of those Europeans from the "old country" don't harbor the same sort of prejudices that you have.
My family has been in this country for centuries, most of my black ancestors were slaves, one branch were "free negroes" and they were divided completely society at large for many generations. It is pretty sad that you think that in 2013 our country "is more divisive than ever." You really need to read a history book or even just use google sometime to learn our history.
LOL at this as well. This country is much less divisive today than it ever was before. My grandmother, in the 1950s/60s was not allowed to live in certain neighborhoods or she could have been killed. My grandfather couldn't work certain places, their kids couldn't go to certain schools. There were actual laws on the books that legalized divisiveness, separation, and racism.
As a new immigrant to this country, you should learn about the story of our great nation and realize we are much greater today and more unified today than we have ever been. I know people like you may want to blame the president for your own prejudices, but you should accept that you and others like you have always had those prejudices. Luckily most of our newer white residents, descendants of those Europeans from the "old country" don't harbor the same sort of prejudices that you have.
My family has been in this country for centuries, most of my black ancestors were slaves, one branch were "free negroes" and they were divided completely society at large for many generations. It is pretty sad that you think that in 2013 our country "is more divisive than ever." You really need to read a history book or even just use google sometime to learn our history.
My loyalty lies first and foremost city, state, country. The city is pretty much in the dumper at this point. The nations is, well...I don't know where it's headed.
Considering I'm a believer in states rights far more than I am a large oppressive federal government, I owe nothing to anyone. MN never had legal slavery. In our history, we've had ONE white-on-black lynching, and that was in regard to a gang rape that had occurred. We also sent in one of the first brigades to fight to free slaves in the Civil War.
Our state produced more flour than any place on the planet from the 19th century on; we produced much of the iron that fueled our success through the turmoil of the period of WWII. I don't know if one black man mined any of that ore. European-Americans under basically slave wages mined that ore and created the infrastructure of this wealthy "blue" state. My great grandparents, great uncles, aunts, etc. are to thank for the state I live in.
I don't owe a whole lot to the South. My state was founded by, created by and continues on today solely because of people like my European ancestors. Outside of a few native tribes who today are contributed to handsomely via casinos we European-Americans in my state owe absolutely nothing to this state. BTW, even today it is still 85% European-American and is it any irony that we are one of the most educated states in the Union or that our capital has the most colleges for one city in the entire country or that we have a great number of Fortune 500 companies here?
As far as the South - the "red" state region which continues to be the least wealthy and most dependent on federal dollars like those from my state - I really could care less what happens there.
LOL at this as well. This country is much less divisive today than it ever was before. My grandmother, in the 1950s/60s was not allowed to live in certain neighborhoods or she could have been killed. My grandfather couldn't work certain places, their kids couldn't go to certain schools. There were actual laws on the books that legalized divisiveness, separation, and racism.
Similar narrative to my family. My father was born and raised in the North, in Milwaukee, grew up there during the mid 1960s-early 1970s. He lived in the neighborhood he lived in because when his parents arrived in Milwaukee in the late 1940s, there were restrictive covenants, which meant Blacks couldn't live in certain neighborhoods. According to him, if you were Black in the 1960s and you went into certain parts of Milwaukee, you might get jumped or killed, by White gangs. Although there were no laws saying he could vote, and there were no "colored water fountains" or other vestiges of the Jim Crow South, there were still problems. I have relatives who lived in the South during the Jim Crow era, and it was scary for them. My grandparents live in Mississippi during the 1930s, and it was quite scary. Like you said, Laws were in the books that legalized divisiveness, segregation, and racism. They could not even vote. They couldn't use the public library, they could not do things that Whites could do. That is one reason they left the South, and never returned.
I know some people who lived in Georgia their whole lives. One person told me that in his town, the KKK would hold meetings on the high school football field, during the 70s and 80s.
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As a new immigrant to this country, you should learn about the story of our great nation and realize we are much greater today and more unified today than we have ever been. I know people like you may want to blame the president for your own prejudices, but you should accept that you and others like you have always had those prejudices. Luckily most of our newer white residents, descendants of those Europeans from the "old country" don't harbor the same sort of prejudices that you have.
That is definitely something that needs to be taught. Blacks do not have the same narrative as immigrants. Immigrants chose to come to America to make a better way for themselves. I can applaud that. However, there needs to be an understanding that Black Americans didn't come here under the same circumstances. Blacks came under duress, under force, and basically lost everything.
I'm glad that there are some decent White people who don't harbor the disturbing prejudice that I've seen on these forums.
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My family has been in this country for centuries, most of my black ancestors were slaves, one branch were "free negroes" and they were divided completely society at large for many generations. It is pretty sad that you think that in 2013 our country "is more divisive than ever." You really need to read a history book or even just use google sometime to learn our history.
Similar to me. Most of my family was enslaved. I do have some "free people of color" in my ancestry, they were Creoles from Louisiana. Free Blacks lived in a divided society too. Free Whites had it better than Free Blacks did. It's in the history books.
I would say this. This nation has always had division, and it's apparent when you look at the history. In fact, the South tried to secede from the USA, and lost. There were laws prevented Blacks from voting, from have equal access to education, made Blacks sit in the back of the bus despite the fact that they were paying the same bus fare. Basically, Blacks lived in a dictatorship and Whites lived in a democracy, all in the same nation. How much more divided can you get?
I wasn't asking for anything. Frankly, I've run into one too many people with your way of thinking. What I want is to hopefully never run into another person who thinks like you. But I guess that won't happen. My point is that this nation has always been divisive because of the way people have been treated, and that anger has passed on from generation to generation.
Minority anger towards whites, most of whom had nothing to do with any injustice, is unjustified and is beginning to be met with anger of their own. My children will not be discriminated against in education and employment because certain groups aren't intelligent enough on average to make it on merit alone. Working class whites will no longer ignore the out of control rate of interracial rape and murder by blacks on whites. It has taken a long time for many whites to wake up to this reality, as the media and educational elite indoctrinated us with white guilt and historical inaccuracies regarding the history of slavery on this earth. No more.
And maybe you should direct your anger towards the thugs who murder thousands of their own people a year and perpetuate "ghetto" mentalities, that plague many, if not all, majority black neighborhoods.
Your victim hood is not working on us anymore. Man up.
My ancestors weren't even on this continent during the 19th century - like many other white Americans - so what may or may not work with you quite frankly I could give a hoot about.
You're here. Deal with it. Want 40 acres and mule? Keep dreaming...
It doesn't matter where your ancestors were during the 19th century - though I'm sure they were faring just wonderfully in their land - the fact remains that you are here now. What are you going to do to improve this country?
My loyalty lies first and foremost city, state, country. The city is pretty much in the dumper at this point. The nations is, well...I don't know where it's headed.
Considering I'm a believer in states rights far more than I am a large oppressive federal government, I owe nothing to anyone. MN never had legal slavery. In our history, we've had ONE white-on-black lynching, and that was in regard to a gang rape that had occurred. We also sent in one of the first brigades to fight to free slaves in the Civil War.
Our state produced more flour than any place on the planet from the 19th century on; we produced much of the iron that fueled our success through the turmoil of the period of WWII. I don't know if one black man mined any of that ore. European-Americans under basically slave wages mined that ore and created the infrastructure of this wealthy "blue" state. My great grandparents, great uncles, aunts, etc. are to thank for the state I live in.
I don't owe a whole lot to the South. My state was founded by, created by and continues on today solely because of people like my European ancestors. Outside of a few native tribes who today are contributed to handsomely via casinos we European-Americans in my state owe absolutely nothing to this state. BTW, even today it is still 85% European-American and is it any irony that we are one of the most educated states in the Union or that our capital has the most colleges for one city in the entire country or that we have a great number of Fortune 500 companies here?
As far as the South - the "red" state region which continues to be the least wealthy and most dependent on federal dollars like those from my state - I really could care less what happens there.
But here is the difference. Your ancestors came as free people. They chose to go to Minnesota. They were afforded the opportunity to shape the state of Minnesota. Most Blacks were living in the South, under the vestiges of slavery, and later the dictatorship of Jim Crow.
Minnesota being one of the most educated states has more to do with the culture of the Northern USA. The Deep South has relatively low education attainment levels among Whites. It is a culture problem. The South is the way it is because it was a slave state from the beginning. Education was considered secondary because the persons in charge made it illegal for Blacks to learn how to read, and didn't build schools for its White population.
And Black men may have not mined the iron in Minnesota, but they were working in the factories that produced the airplanes, ships, and ammunition during WWII. The idea that Blacks didn't contribute to America is utterly stupid and factually incorrect. The reason there weren't Blacks mining the taconite in Minnesota is because Minnestoa had a small Black population, and most of it was in the Twin Cities. Before WWII, Blacks were going mostly to the big cities, such as New York, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, St. Louis, Cincinnati, Dayton, Columbus, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, those areas.
Minority anger towards whites, most of whom had nothing to do with any injustice, is unjustified and is beginning to be met with anger of their own. My children will not be discriminated against in education and employment because certain groups aren't intelligent enough on average to make it on merit alone. Working class whites will no longer ignore the out of control rate of interracial rape and murder by blacks on whites. It has taken a long time for many whites to wake up to this reality, as the media and educational elite indoctrinated us with white guilt and historical inaccuracies regarding the history of slavery on this earth. No more.
And maybe you should direct your anger towards the thugs who murder thousands of their own people a year and perpetuate "ghetto" mentalities, that plague many, if not all, majority black neighborhoods.
Your victim hood is not working on us anymore. Man up.
You really think like that? Do yourself a favor, and go read a history book.
Minority anger towards whites, most of whom had nothing to do with any injustice, is unjustified and is beginning to be met with anger of their own. My children will not be discriminated against in education and employment because certain groups aren't intelligent enough on average to make it on merit alone. Working class whites will no longer ignore the out of control rate of interracial rape and murder by blacks on whites. It has taken a long time for many whites to wake up to this reality, as the media and educational elite indoctrinated us with white guilt and historical inaccuracies regarding the history of slavery on this earth. No more.
And maybe you should direct your anger towards the thugs who murder thousands of their own people a year and perpetuate "ghetto" mentalities, that plague many, if not all, majority black neighborhoods.
Your victim hood is not working on us anymore. Man up.
LOL @ these posters flattering themselves with claims of blacks being angry with them
Black folks ain't thinking about you dude...much less wasting the emotion of anger on you. They don't even know that you exist, and the ones that do, find you to be insignificant. You're not in any position power over anyone. Stop it.
And this silly idea of yours about dealing with us in a hostile fashion is pure C-D internet fantasy on your part. Keep dreaming. You aren't about to buck up on anyone, and you know it.
It doesn't matter where your ancestors were during the 19th century - though I'm sure they were faring just wonderfully in their land - the fact remains that you are here now. What are you going to do to improve this country?
As I stated, my loyalty is first and foremost to my state and secondly to America, if the majority of America at all. But for what I'm I doing, I'm doing it right now. My family has been doing it since around 1900.
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But here is the difference. Your ancestors came as free people. They chose to go to Minnesota. They were afforded the opportunity to shape the state of Minnesota. Most Blacks were living in the South, under the vestiges of slavery, and later the dictatorship of Jim Crow.
Again, not my problem. My state sent in one of the very first brigades to free slaves. Our state - my ancestors for that matter - have done more than enough. I frankly don't care one hoot about the South.
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And Black men may have not mined the iron in Minnesota, but they were working in the factories that produced the airplanes, ships, and ammunition during WWII. The idea that Blacks didn't contribute to America is utterly stupid and factually incorrect. The reason there weren't Blacks mining the taconite in Minnesota is because Minnestoa had a small Black population, and most of it was in the Twin Cities. Before WWII, Blacks were going mostly to the big cities, such as New York, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, St. Louis, Cincinnati, Dayton, Columbus, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, those areas.
As to my state, they haven' contributed a great deal. If anything they retarded progress for thousands of whites when they decided to strike break here as they did.
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