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We need at least 20,000 more gun laws, that's what we need to do in order to solve this. If treating our social problems by ceaselessly growing a bureaucratic juggernaut of legislation isn't the American way, well by golly I don't know what is!
Sure, it's always GW's fault. Tell it to Eric Holder....if he stays out of jail and keeps his job.
"There is one mitigating factor, however: A program similar to Fast and Furious did go forward under the Bush administration in 2006 and 2007. That program, called Operation Wide Receiver, also attempted to track suspicious weapons. Allowing gun sales to go forward even when the ATF had probable cause to believe the sales were unlawful has come to be known as "gun walking."
The two operations -- Fast and Furious and Wide Receiver -- had some similarities, and both were run out of the ATF’s Phoenix Field Division. The inspector general explored both programs in depth and found similar problems."
I find this information to be a revelation worthy of marching in the streets, But apparently I'm boring you people.
Saw that last night--mind blowing. I'm not a responsible gun owner, yet I regularly advocate and am willing to fight for the right of sane people to own any type of firearm they want. So when I hear right-wing nut-jobs chest-thumping about the constitution (that they know nothing about), or start threatening civil war, or like in this case, complain about how we have too many laws as is, it does a great disservice to responsible gun owners who actually give a ****.
The de facto mindset of this appears to be that which overshadows all of their yelling: I've got mine, so go **** yourself.
It comes in taxes and healthcare, how dare you charge me three dollars a month so poor people don't die in the street.,
In comes in reasonable regulation, how dare you run a background check to prevent Johny McPsychopath from buying a handgun.
Someone a while ago put this mindset into an analogy of a right-winger and a left-winger driving down the road in a car when it runs out of gas. The left-winger gets out of the car and walks to go get gas, while the right-winger sits and fumes about how they should have filled up before they embarked and it's the left-wingers fault for running out of gas and now they can't go anywhere and...
They aren't interested in discussing logistics of how to make things work, they just want to sit in the back of the car and complain about how we're out of gas. Meanwhile, the left-winger is bothering to solve the problem, at his own expense.
We need at least 20,000 more gun laws, that's what we need to do in order to solve this. If treating our social problems by ceaselessly growing a bureaucratic juggernaut of legislation isn't the American way, well by golly I don't know what is!
Another 20,000 easily cicumvented gun laws wouldn`t help.You`re correct.
As the New York Times reported last week, ATF has been operating without a permanent director for six years, mostly because the Senate has stalled confirmation proceedings. ATF's budget has remained stagnant throughout a post-9/11 period in which almost all other law enforcement and national security endeavors have been showered with resources.
And ATF's mission has been undermined in myriad other ways by acts of Congress. For example, ATF is prohibited from creating a national registry of gun transactions. Its agents cannot make more than one unannounced inspection of a licensed gun dealer each year.
Records on background checks of gun buyers must be destroyed within 24 hours. ATF is limited in its ability to share tracing information on guns linked to crimes with local and state agencies.
Moreover, there is something terribly out of whack with an antiterrorism policy that creates a "watch list" of people who are considered too dangerous to board an airplane ... yet those same people can legally buy deadly weapons. And Congress has been too timid to confront that contradiction.
Another 20,000 easily cicumvented gun laws wouldn`t help.You`re correct.
Congressmen have made sure that ATF was incapable of enforcement, why would you not expect them to be circumvented. Things like the investigation of illegal transfer are really non-existent, you would thinkthat these good congressmen would have an interest in stemming the flow of illegal arms, yet they have a restriction that dealers can only be investigated once a year.
I would hope that congressmen, the NRA, gunowners and citizens would see this as an issue.
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A recent analysis of U.S. firearm commerce uncovered that only 1% of licensed dealers were responsible for nearly 60% of guns traced to crime. Responding to the need for improved regulations, Center experts consulted to help develop a 10-point gun dealer code of conduct adopted by Wal-Mart in 2008. This set of policies includes mandatory video recording of all firearm transactions, a computerized log of crime gun traces relating to the retailer, criminal background checks for all employees selling or handling firearms, and strict control of firearm inventory. Center research has continued to be used by mayors and state legislators to develop and advocate for policies to reduce criminally obtained illegal guns
it does look like you do not include the results of how much of the government is responsible for gun trafficking as well.
after all, it is the obama administration that was responsible for american border agents to be murdered by firearms they allowed to go to mexican cartels.
tell me that the liberal media would have not crucified a republican administration that would have done the same thing.
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