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I would personally be in favor of EVERYONE born in the US having to earn their citizenship by learning and serving in some form or fashion. It would make people more aware of what they have and what they stand to lose. If you have never been to some of the more impovrished areas of the world, you won't understand..
Can you spell f-a-s-c-i-s-m?
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Originally Posted by Pretzelogik
No other country of on the planet allows this poppycock.
Lots of other countries have birth-right citizenship. It's thinly veiled racism when people complain about anchor babies and birth-tourism. Those numbers are so low (and in the case of anchor babies, the logic so absurd) as to justify the following.
You're an idiot.
Seriously.
The fallacy of anchor babies is that women (specifically dirty hobo mexican women) are coming here to have children, so that in EIGHTEEN years, those U.S. citizen children can sponsor their parents.
Lots of other countries have birth-right citizenship. It's thinly veiled racism when people complain about anchor babies and birth-tourism. Those numbers are so low (and in the case of anchor babies, the logic so absurd) as to justify the following.
You're an idiot.
Seriously.
The fallacy of anchor babies is that women (specifically dirty hobo mexican women) are coming here to have children, so that in EIGHTEEN years, those U.S. citizen children can sponsor their parents.
Genius.
Surely you jest! Just what race is being demonized by requiring that at least one parent of a newborn be a citizen in order for the newborn to gain birthright citizenship? Most countries require that. We are one of the few that don't and it is costing us billions in welfare support for these anchors because their parents decided it was ok to violate our immigration laws. Many of them do it on purpose knowing that their so-called citizen kids will be cared for until they reach adulthood. Yet you side with them?
Hobo Mexican women? What about all the Asian women who fly in here pregnant to give birth to their so-called U.S. citizen baby? Stop making this about race. It has nothing to do with it. There have been hundreds of thousands of anchor babies born on our soil and as I said it is costing us dearly and it makes a mockery out of our citizenship.
You know, that level of hatred for Mexicans may just cause you to have a heart attack! That is very dangerous for your health and well being.
Typical of people like you. Throw out the race card even when it isn't warrented. I don't hate Mexicans or any other nationality. This is about illegal immigration and our laws not someone's nationality. The fact that it is mostly Mexicans here illegally is not our fault and shouldn't be used to play the race card. If you really cared about any American's health and well being you would expect all foreingers to come here legally, not legally and not rewarded for doing so, hypocrite!
Lots of other countries have birth-right citizenship. It's thinly veiled racism when people complain about anchor babies and birth-tourism. Those numbers are so low (and in the case of anchor babies, the logic so absurd) as to justify the following.
You're an idiot.
Seriously.
The fallacy of anchor babies is that women (specifically dirty hobo mexican women) are coming here to have children, so that in EIGHTEEN years, those U.S. citizen children can sponsor their parents.
Genius.
A minority of countries have birthright citizenship. Other than the U.S., Canada, and a bunch of South/Latin American countries, jus soli is rare and becoming rarer.
Surely you jest! Just what race is being demonized by requiring that at least one parent of a newborn be a citizen in order for the newborn to gain birthright citizenship?
Which race is most being demonized at this particular moment in history generally? Answer that question and you will have answered your own.
The history of US immigration and nationality law is a broad tour through the history of American jingoism and racism. When it was the Chinese that white Americans were upset about, they were the ones having their capacity for citizenship questioned, or subjected to exclusive quota's trying desperately to keep these "lesser races" from our shores. This is why so much of our immigration and citizenship law was settled in the 19th century in cases such as US. v. Wong Kim Ark, or In re Look Tin Sing.
In 1924 it was Southern Europeans and Eastern European Jews on whom the doors were slammed, rerouting their immigration patterns to Canada and South America. That law was inspired by Madison Grant and his 1916 book, The Passing of the Great Race. Grant was a racist, a eugenicist and an advocate of the "racial hygiene theory," asserting the superiority of Northern European races.
We held explicitly racist ethnic immigration quotas until 1965.
Anybody who pretends for a second that most of the current-anti immigrant sentiment is not actually just rationalized anti-Latino prejudice is being disingenuous. Alabama and Georgia have proven in just the last couple years that the economic argument against illegal immigration is completely meretricious. Heightened enforcement of immigration laws (without concurrent rational consideration of the need for a liberal guest worker program) actually ended up causing economic mayhem in the agricultural and hospitality industries.
It is an economic truism that in free markets, one of two things happens; people come to where the jobs are, or the jobs go to where the people are. The right-wing position on immigration is at cross purposes with their professed beliefs in the efficiency of free markets. Smarter Republicans have always understood this, explaining why there has always within that party a core group of progressive immigration reform activists. But the Republican Tea-Party swing continues to put more partisan power in the hands on know-nothings and nincompoops.
I assure you, the race card will be played far less often just as as you guys stop dealing so many of them for others to play.
I find it funny how some pick and choose here. Keep in mind at some point in US history someone or even possibly you became an American citizen while not having both parents born in the US just as the founders decreed. The main difference now is melanin count of those being born here without having parents also born here.
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What do you mean unfortunately? You sound like you don't want minorities to move into America.
I think many of us want all immigrants to move into the United States through the established legal process.
I think many of us want immigrants who can contribute to the economy and respect our culture.
I think many of us resent foreigners who come here looking to take without contributing or who consider our country just an opportunity to be exploited to transfer benefits and wealth to other nations.
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That is very dangerous for your health and well being.
