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Old 01-24-2013, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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Actually, a consensual act between a 16 & 33 year-old is NOT technically pedophilia - nor is it "molestation," so at least use proper terminology if you're going to spread these stories. And since I have never heard of nor researched these aspects of his personal life, I can't even say if you're correct about the details. Not that it matters, since we don't consider personal relationships of OTHER notable people with things named after them.

P.S. Funny you would say "even by today's standards," when 100+ years ago they were actually LESS inclined to raise an eyebrow at a 16yo/33yo relationship - in fact, that was probably considered a perfect match.
Depends on the state.
In Colorado anyone over 26 having an intimate relationship with a 16 year old is guilty of statutory rape.
So I guess your right, not pedophilia - rape.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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So was Harvey Milk.
How so?
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was an Atlanta preacher.
Yes, he was.

We celebrated his birthday a few days a go - doesn't that tell you something?
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Everyone single person in the LGBT Community cares about Harvey Milk's accomplishments.
I have no doubt that he accomplished much - but what does his sexual preference have to do with anything?

Here in California - schools are required to teach curriculum concerning Harvey Milk. That is fine - the man served his city and county(the two are the same) honorably , and by all accounts he did a great job - yet they are also required to tell students about his sexual preferences.

That is absolutely ridiculous. What bearing does what a person does in a private bedroom have to do with his contributions to California history? No one needs to know about Milk's sex life, least of all elementary and middle school students.

Why can't teachers simply state what he did for the communities that he served and that he was murdered by a political opponent?
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It must really infuriate you that a gay person is receiving honors, awards, and recognition.
Nope - I don't care what person gets honors, awards, or recognition - so long as they have done something worthy of them.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:51 PM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Sick. But not surprising given the landscape over there.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:55 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Too hard to get back to the East Coast from San Jose or Oakland. I do prefer San Jose... Just can't use it consistently. Plus they don't have a Skyclub. Can't sit with the commonfolk
LOL.

And yes, it definitely depends on where you're going! I generally stick with SFO for the cross-country flights - except when I go to Baltimore, since they have a cheap (I think Southwest?) red-eye flight between SJ & BWI.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:56 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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I have no doubt that he accomplished much - but what does his sexual preference have to do with anything?

Here in California - schools are required to teach curriculum concerning Harvey Milk. That is fine - the man served his city and county(the two are the same) honorably , and by all accounts he did a great job - yet they are also required to tell students about his sexual preferences.

That is absolutely ridiculous. What bearing does what a person does in a private bedroom have to do with his contributions to California history? No one needs to know about Milk's sex life, least of all elementary and middle school students.

Why can't teachers simply state what he did for the communities that he served and that he was murdered by a political opponent?
People who face prejudice and discrimination because of who they are or the community they are a part of and are brave enough to overcome it are extraordinary.

Some day, when these vestiges of hate and ignorance disappear, no one will care if you are male or female, black, brown, red, or white, Buddhist, Hindu, Christian, Jewish, handicapped, gay, bi, straight. On that day we will all have equal opportunity and will not have to fear bigotry.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:00 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Nope - I don't care what person gets honors, awards, or recognition - so long as they have done something worthy of them.
I was very happy that recently the city of Manchester, England erected a bronze statue to the brilliant mathematician Alan Turing - the guy who broke the German Enigma Code in WW2 (contributed to the Allied victory) and considered a grandfather of the computer. Turing was also gay.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:00 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I have no doubt that he accomplished much - but what does his sexual preference have to do with anything?
I don't believe you are actually this dense, since you generally understand basic logic... but since you're either being intentionally obtuse, or really don't get it, I will spell it out for you very simply. How would a person be a pioneer of gay rights if their sexual orientation wasn't known and/or relevant? How would they be the first openly gay supervisor if they were heterosexual? That's like asking how Sally Ride's gender mattered, in terms of her being honored as the first female astronaut. Again I will give you a for asking such obvious questions!
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