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Old 01-26-2013, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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"I can say with 100 percent assurance that despite my accomplishments, there is no way I could endure the physical demands of the infantrymen whom I worked beside as their combat load and constant deployment cycle would leave me facing medical separation long before the option of retirement."

Get Over It! We Are Not All Created Equal | Marine Corps Gazette


Time to stop using the military as a social engineering petri dish.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:53 PM
 
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who ever said we were equal anyway?
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:57 PM
 
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who ever said we were equal anyway?
I think it was Thomas Jefferson who coined the phrase.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:00 PM
 
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We should ALL be given the same opportunity to try though. If a woman cannot keep up, she should not be in combat JUST like a man who can't keep up.

However, as a woman who is over 6' tall and has on several occasions lugged an 80lb backpack over several miles, I can confidently say I'm far mor qualified for service than my 5'5 110 lb male friend who can barely lug his drumset around without help
Why should I be denied the opportunity to try when he wouldn't? Having a vagina does not make me inferior.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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All men are CREATED equal. From birth onward, there is always going to be inequalities.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:09 PM
 
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We should ALL be given the same opportunity to try though. If a woman cannot keep up, she should not be in combat JUST like a man who can't keep up.

However, as a woman who is over 6' tall and has on several occasions lugged an 80lb backpack over several miles, I can confidently say I'm far mor qualified for service than my 5'5 110 lb male friend who can barely lug his drumset around without help
Why should I be denied the opportunity to try when he wouldn't? Having a vagina does not make me inferior.
Indeed, having a vagina makes you dangerous! (Only to us males, though.)
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:09 PM
 
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Interesting story, while serving as commander of the 1st Armored Division in Iraq, then Brigadier Gen. Martin Dempsey walked out to his Humvee and wanted to get to know the crew that would be driving him around. He walked up to the 50 caliber machine gun turret hit the solider on the leg and asked their name. The turret gunner turned around a told the general that her name as Amanda.
"I slapped the turret gunner on the leg and I said, 'Who are you?' And she leaned down and said, I'm Amanda.' And I said, 'Ah, OK,' " Dempsey said.

"So, female turret-gunner protecting division commander. It's from that point on that I realized something had changed, and it was time to do something about it."
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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I think they should have tried integrating the NFL or maybe college track and field before dropping this on the military.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:17 PM
 
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We should ALL be given the same opportunity to try though. If a woman cannot keep up, she should not be in combat JUST like a man who can't keep up.

However, as a woman who is over 6' tall and has on several occasions lugged an 80lb backpack over several miles, I can confidently say I'm far mor qualified for service than my 5'5 110 lb male friend who can barely lug his drumset around without help
Why should I be denied the opportunity to try when he wouldn't? Having a vagina does not make me inferior.


Thanks for commenting without first reading the article, as is obviously the case.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:27 PM
 
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We should ALL be given the same opportunity to try though. If a woman cannot keep up, she should not be in combat JUST like a man who can't keep up.

However, as a woman who is over 6' tall and has on several occasions lugged an 80lb backpack over several miles, I can confidently say I'm far mor qualified for service than my 5'5 110 lb male friend who can barely lug his drumset around without help
Why should I be denied the opportunity to try when he wouldn't? Having a vagina does not make me inferior.
Agreed. Not every woman can cut it, but then, not every man can, either. I know a woman who is a member of the fire department in a major city, and also plays in a full tackle woman's football league. She is a real powerhouse. I challenge anyone to tell her she is not capable of serving in a combat unit.

For women who want to make the military their career, without combat credentials they are often passed over for promotions. Why not allow those women who want to serve and who are capable the opportunity?
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