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Old 01-28-2013, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Let's face it, it's far easier to live on the minimum wage as a single person than have multiple people live on one persons minimum wage.

...Until supposedly government assistance, where some argue that it's easier, and it's the reason certain people obtain more children to live under their house hold.

But said children take away one other valuable resource from the people that obtained the children: time.

Thus, the people in question will have difficulty professionally progressing than say a person who can not only work full time but attend school, training, or perhaps over time as well.


It is important to note that many welfare recipients are recipients due to children.

The problem with these recipients is that you cannot get rid of the children through any moral means.

If you take away the welfare, kids aren't getting fed.

If you have welfare the government isn't getting fed.

Either way in a poor economy it is far more likely that the children of poor stay poor.
This kind of reality isn't going to help much

Earnings of the top 1.0 percent rebound strongly in the recovery | Economic Policy Institute
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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The only way out of poverty is education.

Good education!

My thought is the real answer for those that can't control sexual urges when they have nothing to offer children is sterilization.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:42 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Either way in a poor economy it is far more likely that the children of poor stay poor.
Look at all the generations of immigrants who arrived on the shores of the US over the past 150 or so years. All grew out of poverty without gov't assistance. Generation after generation did better than the previous generation. American poverty in most of the US is a joke compared to nearly every other country on the planet. If you want to see true poverty just fly to the Islands off the east coast where people live in shanty towns. We as a country reward people who live in poverty by giving them tons of entitlements. Yet those who make the attempt to grow out of poverty are slammed down and are stripped of entitlements. Those people are known as the working poor. It should be reversed. We should not reward generational welfare.

If illegals can come to the US and find jobs, then so can those who live in poverty. All they have to do is move to where the jobs are and the US gov't has to punish employers with hefty fines for hiring illegals over citizens.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:57 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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How about a government program that offers grants to poor people under 30 for voluntary sterilization.
It would be cheaper in the long run, and possibly even improve the gene pool.


Gees …. that ought to stir up some bleeding hearts.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You seem to think taxing people will get rid of poverty.
Taxing people is to fund the welfare programs for the increasing number of poor.
That's all taxing will get you.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:19 PM
 
Location: A blue island in the Piedmont
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Socialization (or socialisation) is a term used by sociologists, social psychologists, anthropologists, political scientists and educationalists to refer to the lifelong process of inheriting and disseminating norms, customs and ideologies, providing an individual with the skills and habits necessary for participating within his or her own society. Socialization is thus ‘the means by which social and cultural continuity are attained’.


You can't expect teachers to educate children who aren't socialized.
Either fix this shortcoming within these chidren... or forget about everything else.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:22 PM
 
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Could care less about the top 1%

Would much rather see the earnings increase for the bottom 99% since we have record levels of poverty right now......
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:31 PM
 
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The only way out of poverty is education.
Yeah, educate them that unprotected sex cause kids. Eleven kids from ten different women, dumb women, very dumb guy. NOT my problem NONE of my tax money should go to them.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:24 PM
 
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How can they possibly be hungry ? WIC, food stamps, free breakfast/lunch/snack in school and food pantries. The poor have an obesity problem in the US.

If parents are on food stamps and there is no food at home so we have to feed the poor kids at school then why aren't the parents being charged with child abuse ? Why are the kids still living there ?

The lame-ass people who were raising me (not my parents) were alcoholics who kept the refrigerator FULL of beer (literally) but were unable to keep any actual food in the house.

They were old school Catholics and told me I'd have to be a heathen tonight because. they only thing available to feed me was a can of 'vegetable' soup, the kind with tiny bits of meat.

They actually fed me ketchup sandwiches (WTF?) when that was the closest they got to having food in the house.

There were no free school lunches at the time.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:29 PM
 
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Socialization (or socialisation) is a term used by sociologists, social psychologists, anthropologists, political scientists and educationalists to refer to the lifelong process of inheriting and disseminating norms, customs and ideologies, providing an individual with the skills and habits necessary for participating within his or her own society. Socialization is thus ‘the means by which social and cultural continuity are attained’.


You can't expect teachers to educate children who aren't socialized.
Either fix this shortcoming within these chidren... or forget about everything else.

I think we need to get kids out of harmful environments. When parents eff up their kids, they seriously need to lose the kids. My drug-addled parents (and the lame-ass alcoholics to whom they handed me off) effed me up badly and I'm very angry about that.

So I have no sympathy for toxic parents who need to lose their kids.
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